tillono2g | 11 Jan 2011 8:08 a.m. PST |
Does anybody know how big the thunderbolt miniatures are? I seem to recall epic is usually 1/285, but aren't the AI miniatures larger? Cheers 22g |
The Epic Gamer | 11 Jan 2011 8:47 a.m. PST |
Yep, 1/285 or 6mm. AI stuff just looks bigger because the SG planes are too small to be 6mm. The AI stuff is scaled down from 40k 5 times I believe. These ought to help you get a better idea of their size. Mine are on 40mm round bases. picture picture picture |
tillono2g | 11 Jan 2011 9:12 a.m. PST |
Hey Gamer, This is indeed very helpful, thanks a lot. Nice detailing on your minis by the way. |
Legion 4 | 11 Jan 2011 9:31 a.m. PST |
Much bigger than the previous two versions of the G/W T-bolts
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28mmMan | 11 Jan 2011 9:31 a.m. PST |
Epic G! Those are a fine looking lot you have there
well done and thanks for the share. Inspiring |
Greg B | 11 Jan 2011 1:27 p.m. PST |
Those do look great – but it also shows how the AI stuff is now much bigger than the previous rounds of flyers were in Epic. |
AndrewGPaul | 11 Jan 2011 3:02 p.m. PST |
Theoretically 1: 285 (or possibly 1: 300), but in actual fact it's closer to 1: 220 or even 1: 200. The "real-life" measurements are in Imperial Armour volume 1 and possibly also Aeronautica Imperialis. They're significantly out of scale with the other AI aircraft. |
tillono2g | 12 Jan 2011 6:29 a.m. PST |
So much for manufacturers scale. 1/200th Scale would be perfect for my games though. Thanks everyone for the very helpful comments and pictures. |
evilleMonkeigh | 14 Jan 2011 10:01 p.m. PST |
I've always loved these models. In Australia they work out at over $12 USD a pop though (AUD = USD, btw) |
LEGION | 26 Jan 2011 8:09 a.m. PST |
That isn't too terrible actually Monkeigh. $50-$100 would buy you more than enough planes to make up a whole game. That isn't bad even considering GWs other games. Also I believe that I read a while back that Aeronautica is more true scale 6mm and the planes for Epic were "whatever seemed to work at the time". |
Lion in the Stars | 26 Jan 2011 10:37 a.m. PST |
too big? really? You sure the older Epic aircraft aren't too small? A P-47 (IMO, the closest visual comparison, based on size of cockpit to the rest of the aircraft) has a wingspan of 12.42m. In 1/300 scale, that's 41.4mm, and in 1/285th it's 43.6mm. If forgeworld sculpted their Aeronautica planes to 1/5 the 40k size, then 1/285th scale is a pretty close estimate of the 'true' scale (1/57th mathematically.) Unfortunately, I don't have the Imperial Armour books with the 'real' dimensions anymore. You know, a P47 is *small* compared to modern aircraft. A 1/285th A-10 would have a wingspan of 61.5mm! |
The Epic Gamer | 26 Jan 2011 11:42 a.m. PST |
Thanks guys. I posted my army pics awhile back too: TMP link |
AndrewGPaul | 27 Jan 2011 2:33 a.m. PST |
too big? really? You sure the older Epic aircraft aren't too small? Not sure if you're referring to my posts. The Aeronautica Imperialis books give the "real" sizes of the aircraft, and from that you can obviously work out the scale. The Thunderbolt is a big plane, but the miniature is also at the "wrong" scale compared to the rest. |
Lion in the Stars | 27 Jan 2011 11:15 a.m. PST |
Epic Gamer's pictures looks like a 44mm or so wingspan. What's the "real" wingspan from Imperial Armour 1? |
The Epic Gamer | 27 Jan 2011 12:53 p.m. PST |
16.06m or about 56mm in 1/285. I can measure them tonight, but that seems pretty close. |
evilleMonkeigh | 27 Jan 2011 11:48 p.m. PST |
$50-100 buys me 20 1/300 or over 100 1/600 aircraft so I find the admittedly beautiful T-bolt models a bit overpriced. Although compared to other GW stuff yes, it is good. I haven't tried the rules as it was $90 USD for a rulebook but GW's non-standard lines (Epic, Bloodbowl, Space Hulk, BFG etc) are actually quite good so I'd like to try it. |
The Epic Gamer | 28 Jan 2011 10:29 a.m. PST |
They're wingspan is just over 53mm. So a little small as per the fluff but not that out of scale. |