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Cacique Caribe24 Jun 2010 9:03 a.m. PST

1) Do you have any pictures of your albinos or "colorless" subterranean dwellers (humans and creatures), either from your Fantasy, SF, Pulp, Victorian or Horror collections?

2) Do they look anything like this?

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3) Also, are there any new painting techniques you recommend?

Thanks.

Dan
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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2010 9:17 a.m. PST

Something like this:
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28mmMan24 Jun 2010 9:55 a.m. PST

Dan,

That is the way to avoid the attention of those complaining of bringing back old threads without new info, well done.

Use the system, don't let the system use you!

As for the look of the underground types I looked for this not too long ago and found several points of advice for painting:

The one that made the most sense for painting several to many subterranean albinos would be to paint the miniatures white, then wash with blue ink or thin paint, wipe off excess, dry brush with white, then tinted white (egg shell), and then end with off white (slightly darker) on the high points and extremities.

Since then I had been talking with a buddy of mine that was considering painting a blue/gray zombie mob…that natural pale dead look. And the idea was to paint/prime in bright white and use the "dip" using pigment tint (blue) in clear medium. Depending on the end look he would most likely dry brush a bit of off white on the high points to knock down the gloss and blue.

Of course pink or violet could replace the blue tint :)

Cacique Caribe24 Jun 2010 10:06 a.m. PST

" That is the way to avoid the attention of those complaining of bringing back old threads without new info, well done. Use the system, don't let the system use you!"

Well, it's really too much work this way. Aside from several new picture links, I had to dig up and re-post a lot of examples of albinism that were in the original thread.

It would have been a hell of a lot easier if I had just added the new picture links to the old thread. I hate re-inventing the wheel, particularly when there's a perfectly good depository of older pictures and ideas that I simply want to clarify a bit more*.

Anyway . . .

Priming white seems logical. I have several GW washes, but the only one that seemed proper to me is "Asurmen Blue". My confusion is how to get the combination of blue and pink that seems to show through the whitish skin.

Would that really mean using TWO separate washes? If so, which one should go first (if the order matter at all)?

Dan
* Besides, it seems like most people are not concerned if older topics resurface, as long as there's new info and questions: TMP link

The Gray Ghost24 Jun 2010 10:29 a.m. PST

Unfortunately I have a terrible time trying to get the albino look.

Elric Of Melnibone24 Jun 2010 10:48 a.m. PST

Personally I quite like the albino look!

Paintbeast24 Jun 2010 11:22 a.m. PST

I haven't done this in a few years, and the bulk of the figures I did were wearing robes so I was concerned with veins on hands, feet and faces only. The only time I tried the following technique to represent organs and such it was on the belly of a large frog for a friends RPG. that being said, here is my technique…

- Work figure to a base skin color, done to a medium level with all shading but no highlighting done.

- Mix your medium level skin tone with your subdermal colors (deep purple for veins, dirty magenta, magenta with a spot of brown, for organs, etc…). Thin this and test, color should blend well into your deepest shaded areas and hold its color in 1 or 2 passes. If the test fails, often because it is too translucent or weak, you can add a small amount of matt medium. Once you have the proper shade, and workability apply the color to the figure.

- Mix your first highlight color (medium skin tone with a drop off off white for example). Thin for a medium translucency. Apply as you normally would, allowing the highlight to obscure the subdermal colors slightly.

- Mix subsequent highlights for increasing translucency and apply.

Thinning: I use a Future No wax Floor Finish(FNWFF) and water solution. Additional FNWFF is added to the last few highlight shades as this gives the skin a nice waxy sheen.

Some notes:
- This won't work well with most cheap craft store paints.
- When applying the subdermal colors you need to fade the edges of large areas (organs) and the sides of very prominent veins. For the veins I use a cone or dome tipped brush, extremely light bead of paint and moderate pressure. As the tip splays it will naturally aid you in fading the edges of prominent veins.
- If you don't fade the edges, or are unhappy with the results, you can often fix the problem by making a wash from your medium skin tone and carefully applying it to the figure. Be sure to keep the wash clear of the shaded areas.

28mmMan24 Jun 2010 11:52 a.m. PST

nytflyr…very nice

CC…reposting images from old threads is sometimes welcome as the links are often broken…chin up, it gives you a chance to boost your character per post count :)

CC…as for the pink and blue, logic dictates in this case that the lighter color first or a placement issue…the low points get the pink then thin layers of blue or you could split the difference and go with a pale violet.

paintbeast has a good plan!

Space Monkey24 Jun 2010 12:08 p.m. PST

I'm about to start painting up a force of dwarves and I want to use these guys as reference
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Moonbeast24 Jun 2010 1:05 p.m. PST

"this is my first and only attempt… decided to do it after seeing an albino gator at the Dallas Zoo…"

And a darn good attempt it is too…very good IMO.

CC, I'd go the SG:A wraith route…I've always thought they were disturbingly cool.
Edit: Oooo she's cute…

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rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2010 1:36 p.m. PST

I have a pack of splintered light 15mm ghouls that I painted up as subterraneans. for skin I used Delata Ceramcoat 'light parchment' and over grey green and then minwaxed with tudor. I had no idea how they would come out, but their flesh has a passing resemblance to the creepers in 'The Descent'. Too bad I have no pics since my PC is on the fritz. I'm typing this from my local library

Dances With Words Fezian24 Jun 2010 1:55 p.m. PST

I think that if you look at the 'flesh tones' of a grub or Morlocks from the FIRST/1960 Time Machine movie…those are the best ideas…IMHO

28mmMan24 Jun 2010 2:16 p.m. PST

Moonbeast…your links will not work if there are any text or "…" touching them, so here you go :) picture and yes she is a slice of yummy cake with heck ya icing

28mmMan24 Jun 2010 2:23 p.m. PST

A few more :)

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Pyrate Captain24 Jun 2010 5:46 p.m. PST

I met one once in St. Germain Wisconsin.

BigJoeDuke24 Jun 2010 6:50 p.m. PST

Way back ago I used the Purple Wonder Wash to do my white based Dark Elves (irony?) on top top of Elf Flesh mixed 50-5 with white, just ever so slightly tinted the minis with that "in the dark look" while still maintaining a fleshy/pale fleshy look…

hope that helps…
Big Joe Duke

BigJoeDuke24 Jun 2010 6:53 p.m. PST

Link…sorry..

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Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2010 9:08 a.m. PST

I am working on a similar project for my Atlantis in 18th century. Inspired by Moorcock's Elric of Melniboné, all my figures in 18th century dress will have that deathly palor.

I thought about spraying my figures mid grey and dry brushing the flesh tones and blending a 50-50 white/flesh mix over hands and face.

Some useful tips from GW:
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Cheers,
Robert

Moonbeast25 Jun 2010 1:22 p.m. PST

Thanks 28mmMan, I'll try to remember that…and Andie Frizzel in her wraith queen getup ain't none too shabby either (I know, I'm disturbed)…:)

28mmMan25 Jun 2010 6:50 p.m. PST

Andee Frizzell as requested :)
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Cacique Caribe26 Jun 2010 9:28 p.m. PST

Anna Walton does look nice, even behind all the makeup:

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Anyway, how do you guys like these guys here?

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Dan

Cog Comp26 Jun 2010 10:09 p.m. PST

Too many links, Dan…

However, the salamander is closest to what I paint my subterraneans. Of course, the only real subterraneans I have painted are orcs, but they tends to either have the pale salamander looking skin, or the darker (outdoors) looking black skin

Cacique Caribe22 Mar 2011 7:42 a.m. PST

I guess that the hair color doesn't have to be absolutely even in shade:

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Dan

28mmMan22 Mar 2011 4:46 p.m. PST

I wonder if there is a glaze that could be layered over the base colors with highlights…the layers giving a thin skin look?

DLIinVSF23 Mar 2011 2:34 p.m. PST

You may want to check out this old b movie YouTube link

Leutenant Brittan26 Mar 2011 4:03 p.m. PST

Like this:

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28mmMan26 Mar 2011 4:07 p.m. PST

Oh My God…my eyes my eyes! :)

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