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Mick in Switzerland14 Mar 2010 9:23 a.m. PST

I have been painting some USMC.

I hae been having trouble with the Grey Green for the HBT utilities. The finished result is rather too dark.

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I used 50% US Dark Green 70.893 and 50% Pastel Green 70.885. I also tried German Uniform 70.920 which is good but also a litle dark.

Does anybody have a better colour reference?

Regards
Mick

aecurtis Fezian Inactive Member14 Mar 2010 9:31 a.m. PST

Too dark? Maybe not for new utilities. But they faded quickly. What I'm seeing is too much blue in it, although that could be my monitor.

Lemme think. Somebody did the TAG Marines when they first came out, and they were beautiful. I can't remember who it was.

Iron Ivan Chal does a pretty good job with faded utilities, but he's using Reaper:

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It may be just a matter of lightening the top layers differently; what you have looks fine as a shadow color. Maybe a little khaki in the highlights?

See also the discussion here:

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Oooh, and here; some good stuff:

TMP link

Allen

bjporter14 Mar 2010 9:33 a.m. PST

Are those 15mm figures?

When I painted my 15mm figures, I painted the entire figure Vallejo Pastel Green. After the figure dried, I made a very thin wash of Olive Drab and washed the entire figure.

The wash was FW Acrylic Artists Ink Olive Green 363 (Transparent).

They turned out pretty decent.

Mick in Switzerland14 Mar 2010 9:37 a.m. PST

Thanks Allen

sirzelaznog appears to have the same idea of using US Dark Green but he uses much more of the pastel colour.

BJ
The figures are 28mm TAG.

Regards
Mick

Mick in Switzerland14 Mar 2010 10:42 a.m. PST

Dear Allen,

Thanks for the tips – I will try re-highlighting or rather more highlighting with lighter colours.

Regards
Mick

Sundance14 Mar 2010 10:59 a.m. PST

Green-grey is almost dead on for my dad's original herringbones that I have, and I use a wash of diluted black craft paint.

Mick in Switzerland14 Mar 2010 11:16 a.m. PST

Thanks Sundance,

Typical, I have well over 50 pots of Vallejo but no Green Grey 70.886. I will buy one.
Thanks
Mick

Sundance14 Mar 2010 12:11 p.m. PST

Mick, I hadn't looked at your pic originally but just looked at it now. I think they look pretty good. Those look like 25s – I paint 15s, so there might be a little difference in the way the shade appears on the fig. As I mentioned, I give the whole figure a wash of diluted black craft paint, but don't highlight at all. I like the way it turns out – if you're using 25s you'll need to highlight, which I think will balance the dark patches pretty well.

Mick in Switzerland15 Mar 2010 11:30 a.m. PST

Dear Sundance
I will add more of the highlight shade and see how they look.

By the way, here are the Japanese (also TAG 28mm)
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and my Flickr gallery.
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Regards
Mick

Mick in Switzerland08 Apr 2010 9:33 a.m. PST

Darn it, I just unpacked 70866 Grey Green and it is way to dark (almost black).

I think the correct colour must be Green Grey 70.886.

Can anybody confirm this?

Mick

Quadratus Inactive Member27 Apr 2010 1:28 p.m. PST

I can confirm it is green grey.

Below is the guide I am using to paint my marines


WWII United States Marine Corps Painting Guide (Vallejo Paints)

By Sonny Smith

I cover all of my figures with heavily watered down 854 Brown Glaze before Highlighting with the same color.

Utility Uniform and Utility Cap 886 green grey
Helmet 887 Brown Violet

Helmet Cover, Camo Smock and Camo pants 821 German Camo Beige WWII

Camouflage

-888 Olive Grey

-822 German Camo Black Brown

Reversible Camo Smock 824 German Camo Orange Ochre

Camouflage

-875 Beige Brown

-984 Flat Brown
Webbing and Ruck Sack 914 Green Ochre
Boots 871 Leather Brown
Gun Barrel 984 Flat Brown
Gun barrel 863 Gunmetal Grey

Leggings 988 Khaki
Skin 955 Flat Flesh

Here is a good reference picture of the Camouflaged Smock and pants:

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Just a quick note on the Camouflaged pants. The light color of the pants left them to be discarded and the green utilities pants worn instead. This was more of a practical issue more than anything else.

Reference picture for the Utilities uniform:

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Officer Rank goes on the collar of the uniform. Generally a Platoon would be led by either a First Lieutenant or a Second lieutenant. Enlisted Rank goes on the upper arm above the elbow. A Platoon Sergeant would be a Gunnery Sergeant or a Staff Sergeant. A squad would be lead by a Sergeant. Corporals would lead sub-units of the squad. A note on rank, Most of the time there would be no rank worn on Marines in the field. The Japanese would shot anyone who looked to be in a command position and Japanese snipers would look for officers and sergeants to kill. It is more than appropriate to model Marines without any rank insignia.

Hope this is informative.

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