"WWII US - Japanese uniform for 25mm (Vallejo)" Topic

I have found many posts with a variety of painting guides for WWII uniforms, but most of thems do not reffer but only to one color for each part of the uniforms….

I fear those painting guides are supossed to work on 15-20mm minis, and Iīm not really sure it could help me when painting 25mm….. specially because I suffer from daltonism, so no way to choose the right lightning…

May anybody help me? US and Japanese uniforms are needed…

Try this

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All the references I have for Japanese uniforms in WW II shows that they were pretty much all the same color. Marines were as well, although their helmets had the camo cover on them. It's certainly not a 15 or 20mm thing…

Nax . . . the Marines had several different styles of uniforms, they changed as the war progressed. One of my recent Osprey purchases had a wonderful color plate that showed the uniforms on three different campaigns (Guadalcanal, Saipan and Okinawa if memory serves) and they were different each time.

At work so I can't check the volume right now, but will do so this evening and repost the results.

As for the Japanese, I do believe you are correct there, mostly one color throughout.

I stand corrected— I was lazy and didn't go look in MY uniform book! But one thing you can say is that all the uniforms in the tropics faded severely and quickly, too. So there aren't many wrong ways to paint these guys… unless they're red.

Ok… I fear nobody read my message,just the subject..

I can not see difference between colours as normal people do… this is called daltonism, and it would usually be a good reason not to paint miniatures. Itīs not my case.

So, please.. what I want to know is if somebody has developed a painting guide for USMC and Japanese including what colors are to to be used in the lightings… what I havenīt found yet (unless the base and the lighting were the same color, what I really doubt…)

Many thanks for the comments, anyway.. maybe I didnīt explained myself right…

Sorry Sir Z . . . I read the first paragraph of your post, not the second. I have no painting guide, but threads on the PTO interest me. When I saw a post suggestion the Marines had one basic uniform throughout that's why I posted.

I'm color blind myself, but it doesn't stop me from painting! Stick with it.

As for painting schemes . . . there is one for the Japanese on the resistant rooster web site. It specifies the colors of the paint and how to do it. Haven't seen one for the Marines yet.

As for "lighting" if by that you mean the highlight coat there are two ways to do it. #1 – use the basic coat, but add a drop or two of white to it, to make it lighter, then drybrush on, or #2 – look at all the colors you have available, find one that is a shade lighter, and use that straight out of the bottle.

Me, I don't like mixing colors, because I can never mix the same shade the same hue again. Up close they probably don't look as good as those who do two or three coats of slightly whiter base coats, but they are fine for my purposes. Then again, I'm just getting into WWII in 15mm scale (my prior metal addiction was 28mm). There are certainly differences in painting techniques!

Since I promised to come back with a quick bit about USMC uniforms (no helpful painting guide info, but still…) here it is:

Opening Rounds (Philippines, Guam and Wake Island): Prior to the introduction of the uniform that known as utilities, the USMC had wool forest green winter and cotton khaki summer service uniforms which served as field uniforms as well. The Marines who fought during the opening phases of the war in the pacific wore khakis. The uniform was khaki, the canvas leggings were tan or khaki, the leather boots were light brown with black soles, and the web gear, pack, straps and all that were all khaki in color. Brown leather was evident with pistol holsters and knife scabbards. They wore the M1917A1 helmet, called the "dishpan" which was typically painted forest green.

Early Assaults (Guadalcanal): By Guadalcanal the USMC had adopted both a one and two-piece cotton herringbone twill (HBT) utility uniform. These were sage green in color. The leggings were still tan or khaki, the leather boots were tan with black soles, and the web gear, pack, straps and all that were still khaki in color. The helmet had been replaced by the M1 steel helmet used throughout the rest of the war. This helmet was painted olive drab. Burlap and utility cloth helmet covers started to make their appearance at this time.

Next Steps (Bougainville, Tarawa): The USMC adopted a two-piece reversible camo HBT in 1943. Known as the "frog" pattern, the green side was dark and light green spots, and dark and light brown spots, on a pale green background. The brown side was dark, medium and light brown and tan, on a khaki background. By the time of the Bougainville and Tarawa assaults, these were in widespread use. It was not uncommon for units to wear a combination of camies and sage green utilities, or for individual soldiers to wear mixed components. The reversible camo helmet cover became widely used at this time as well. The leggings were now gone, and the boots were khaki with black soles. All of the web gear remained khaki in color.

Later Assaults (Roi-Namur, Eniwetok, Saipan, Guam, Tinian, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Okinawa): By this time, it appears the full camo look had run it's course. Soldiers were mostly wearing the sage green HBTs, with the only camo present being the widespread use of the camo helmet cover and the camo poncho typically seen rolled up and stored over the top of the pack. Most of the web gear remained khaki in color, though there are color plates in a few Osprey books that show olive drab packs and the occasional olive drab pouch hanging off the web belting.

Other than the early khaki field uniforms, the rest had the words "USMC" stenciled in black above the Eagle, Globe and Anchor emblem on the left shirt pocket.

Primary source: US Marine Corps 1941-45 by Gordon Rottman (Osprey). Additional source: 20th Century Military Uniforms by Chris McNab (Barnes & Noble).

MANY MANY THANKS Seattlegamer, a great and useful information. I think Iīm trying to resemble the Guadalcanalīs HBT….

Finally I have collected a bunch of color guides, so Iīll choose one and try…

When finished, Iīll post the colorguide, and some link to the photos Iīll take, so you can check my results…

Color Blinded Power!!!!!

Sorry I didn't understand— I read the whole OP, but I did not know what Daltonism is. Good luck with the Pacific stuff!

This has been my colortable to paint usmc in Pacific Theatre (all the references are for Vallejo Colours, painting 25mm only with one base and one H/L).

UNIFORM: 893 US Dark Green+918 Ivory (33%), H/L: 893 + White (50%)
WEBBING: 914 Green Ochre, H/L: 914+ 918
HELMET: 887 Brown Violet, H/L: 887+ White
SHIRT: 893, H/L: 893+ 918
BOOTS: 985 Hull Red, H/L: 985+ 818 Red Leather (Other choice will be a 893 base and 893+white, as I have seen in some booksī photographies)

BAZOOKA: 975 Military Green, H/L: 975+ 850 Medium Olive

CAMMO: 821 German Cammo Beige (Base), Cammo Spots: 984 Flat Brown, 893 US Dark Green or 970 Dark Green (the spots are placed all along, both colors separated)

Hey, thanks for coming back with your color scheme! I may just try those colors myself.