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BigLee22 Jan 2010 7:05 a.m. PST

I saw the earlier post about the Tiger 131 appeal [ TMP link ] and had a look round the tank Museums excellent website [ tankmuseum.org/home ]. The site says this is 1 of only 6 surviving Tiger I's… so where are the others?

BigLee
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Lord Al22 Jan 2010 7:19 a.m. PST

I think that there is one at the Patton Museum in Ft. Knox.

aecurtis Fezian22 Jan 2010 7:23 a.m. PST

You can find them in practically every Flames of War German list.

Allen

Wackmole922 Jan 2010 7:55 a.m. PST

Hi

I believe one is in Russia at there tank museum.

Big P from GMG22 Jan 2010 7:57 a.m. PST

Well there is one in Vimoutiers… Found in a hedge.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Jan 2010 8:05 a.m. PST

The Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Grounds has one (or is that 'had' one? I understand the museum is relocating).

Garand22 Jan 2010 8:34 a.m. PST

Saumur IIRC has a runner.

There's Bovington which I think has one (may be a runner).

The Patton Museum.

APG.

Kubinka.

Where's #6?

Damon.

Richard Baber22 Jan 2010 8:36 a.m. PST

According to this site – link

Saratov, Russia

But it doesn`t mention the Patton one but does say theres another at – Vimoutiers

Tachikoma22 Jan 2010 8:59 a.m. PST

The vehicle at the Patton Museum is a Tiger II/Konigstiger, not a Tiger I.

Patrick R22 Jan 2010 9:02 a.m. PST

PDF link

There are more Tiger II's out there than I's …

BigLee22 Jan 2010 9:18 a.m. PST

Excellent pdf… that Tiger II at La Gleize looks like its parked in someones driveway. That would be so cool…

Fred Cartwright22 Jan 2010 9:43 a.m. PST

Saumur IIRC has a runner.
There's Bovington which I think has one (may be a runner).

No the Bovington one is the only runner. Samur has a running Panther IIRC.

Wyatt the Odd Fezian22 Jan 2010 10:02 a.m. PST

The one formerly at Aberdeen was sent back to Germany where it is supposedly being restored – or has been restored. Whether it will return, or remain on display in Germany I don't know.

Wyatt

Cujoman22 Jan 2010 11:31 a.m. PST

No the Bovington one is the only runner. Samur has a running Panther IIRC.

Seems to be running fine…
YouTube link

Angus9922 Jan 2010 11:33 a.m. PST

Patrick's link i turn further links to another article about the Russian testing of capture King Tiger's and their mechanical reliability. Excellent, excellent dose of reality for Tiger fanboys (and I'm as guilty of that as the next wargamer, not throwing stones). Particularly interesting how the quality of the armor itself deteriorated over the late war years.

Major Mike22 Jan 2010 12:58 p.m. PST

I thought the Germans had one at their tank museum. Also, there was the one everybody drooled over that was filmed running in one of the former Yugoslavian areas during the trouble in the 1990's.

Dan Cyr22 Jan 2010 2:08 p.m. PST

The Soviet test comment about US 76 mm AP being several times better than their 85 mm AT was interesting.

Dan

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2010 2:21 p.m. PST

"Also, there was the one everybody drooled over that was filmed running in one of the former Yugoslavian areas during the trouble in the 1990's."

Say WHAT? Why wasn't I told!

Don Hogge22 Jan 2010 2:52 p.m. PST

The APG Tiger has been in Germany since at least 1996. If or when it returns, I reckon it'll be heading to Ft Lee.

Major Mike22 Jan 2010 4:10 p.m. PST

"Also, there was the one everybody drooled over that was filmed running in one of the former Yugoslavian areas during the trouble in the 1990's."

I didn't see the news clip, but talk quickly made the circuit. Acording to what I had heard, the news nerd was babbling about the Serbs/Bosnians/etc while an armored column was moving along a road in a town/city behind him. During his babbling one of the tanks that came into view and turned and went out of view was a Tiger. It was said that some of the monied tank collectors quickly started offering a reward for its lication and purchase. Never heard what became of it.
I do have a friend that, when stationed in German in the early 1980's, said a old German drove up to the front gate of his post with a PZ IV. His story was that he and his crew mates had parked it in a barn at the end of the war. They took care of it and occasionally, at night when maneuvers were being held in the area, would take it out for a spin to exercise the running gear (They figured no one would notice another tank trundling around in the dark). He turned it in because he was the only surviving crewman and he could no longer take care of it.

Matsuru Sami Kaze22 Jan 2010 7:07 p.m. PST

Aberdeen has a Sturm Tiger. 128mm gun. impact divots on starboard side.

11th ACR22 Jan 2010 9:52 p.m. PST

Try this site: link

SteelonSand23 Jan 2010 8:01 a.m. PST

Could the 'mystery' Yugoslavian Tiger, have been one originally made for the Film "Kelly's Heroes" ?

See the last paragraph of the Sherman entry:

link

and also:

link


Perhaps Oddball was driving…..

Fred Cartwright23 Jan 2010 8:04 a.m. PST

Seems to be running fine…

That's a Tiger II! Bovington's is a Tiger I.

Cujoman23 Jan 2010 11:25 a.m. PST

That's a Tiger II! Bovington's is a Tiger I.

Yes, it's not a Panther.

Martin Rapier25 Jan 2010 5:08 a.m. PST

Same engine as a Panther though.

Never occured to me before that the only place I've seen a Tiger 1 is at Bovvy. There are a couple at Duxford, but they are SPR mockups.

Jemima Fawr25 Jan 2010 5:51 a.m. PST

As Big P says; one is sitting at the side of the road in Vimoutiers, Normandy. It was scuttled there by its crew during the retreat from Falaise and spend 30 years at the bottom of a ravine, where the scrap dealers couldn't get at it. It was then recovered in the 1970s and has been at the side of the road, as a memorial, ever since.

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