"Xyston - 15mm questions" Topic

I had heard from one semi reliable source that these figures rather ran on the big side. Can anyone attest to this? They seem to have incredible detail at 15mm, so I am wondering if perhaps they are not more like 18mm.

With the way many seem to like to creep up, it will not be long before 15mm is actually 25mm, since 25mm is now really 28mm.

Are these figures brittle?

Thanks in advance

According to Madaxeman's site they are indeed larger than Old Glory and Covrus Belli to name a few.

My question is when they are going to come out with Roman Cavalry to complement their Republican Roman infantry…..

I have a couple bags of the new Gallic Nobles and the Gaesati Nobles, musicians and standard bearers.

They are between 15mm and 17mm from foot to eye. So they are a bit on the big side. A friend with some of the earlier Classical Greek codes said that there had been a recent resizing upwards.

I don't find them brittle, although the Gallic Nobles had some odd proportion issues.

Bob in Edmonton

It depends on the packs, and when in the sequence they were released. They started smaller, then they growed, and now are supposed to be under control.

No more brittle than most.

Allen

They are lovely figures, but if you get a bad batch – look out. Corvus seems to be the same way.

The original hoplites were fabulous, but some of the phalangites got a little large, and the thureophoroi (if memory serves) seemed big. The xystophoroi almost looked like 20mm figures, and dwarfed the poor horses with which they were packaged.

Here is a comparison of Xyston and a few contemporaries.
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I should put up a few more pics as the Xyston size question comes up regularly.

MHO.

The early sculpts are acceptably on the large side of contemporaries, ie, ~16mm to eyes. The Macedonians and Indians start getting a little bigger but OK'ísh. They really get unacceptably large with the the thureophoroi, peaking with the huge Rep Romans.

There is a promise that new releases will have scale creep under control.

If you have any OG15,Essex or similar the Xyston look more like 20mm figures when compared.

Well this was what I thought might be the case, when i saw that much detail in a "15 mm" figure. Years ago, I remember ordering a few bags from a company called Testudo. Half the pack was okay and literally within the same pack, there were 20mm figures. Then, one of the Pistols that looked good, proved incredible brittle.

When I saw these, I was impressed – but skeptical. So what is the definitive guide currently – which of their line is more compatible with OG and Essex?

As for Essex, when Ed sold his business, I bought my last figure. I will never deal further with the guy who acquired the rights. I believe Essex made a big blunder in that regard.

"As for Essex, when Ed sold his business, I bought my last figure. I will never deal further with the guy who acquired the rights. I believe Essex made a big blunder in that regard." Can't you order Essex direct from England?

"So what is the definitive guide currently – which of their line is more compatible with OG and Essex?"

I have never mixed my Xyston with Essex within the same unit. I've occasionally "borrowed" a Xyston unit to use within an Essex army, but the Xyston unit looks like the Essex guys invited their big brother to a fight.

The earliest Xyston codes – hoplites, Spartans, Thebans – mix alright with Old Glory.

Funny enough I actually prefer a Essex/OG15s to Xyston.

I suppose I could Mike but like others I'm sure, I have more projects than time. I need little new inventory – just a few packs here and there to fill lists.

I'm getting into some 1/2400 Napoleonic sail, and was interested in the Xyston 1/600 Ancient ship line as well. The 15mm figures crossed my path and caught my attention for their good detail.

However, if the DBA army set of Xyston Spartans that I have is any indication, they don't come with spears or wire to make them: It's DIY time.

SMc.

"However, if the DBA army set of Xyston Spartans that I have is any indication, they don't come with spears or wire to make them: It's DIY time."

Xyston figures come without spears, they sell them as a pack of 50 that are pike-length which you can cut down to spear-length as you need

Phil

I've just added some pictures of the Legendary Huge Xyston Theurophoroi (LHXT) towering over a variety of other figures – some from other Xyston ranges.

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This link should take you directly there for a while – after that you will need to ssearch for Xyston, or look in the Hellenistic Peltasts section!

Tim

Bigger is "en Vogue" but really, those have to be 20mm. I think making figures on par with other brands, is the optimal business model.

That they advertise these as 15mm, is rather absurd. They would be better off just stating the obvious.

Thanks madaxeman for the comparison photos. Considering OG15s are actually oversized for 15mm compared to 'true' 15mm figures the Xyston really should be marketed as 20mm.

On a side note my armies are 70% OG15, the rest Essex. I notice that Corvus Belli mix in well with these. Have to look at adding a few of their figures to my next host.

we market Xyston as 15mm and although there has been issues with scale creep in the past all new models are sculpted from scaled dollys now to make sure this never happens again. When we purchased the compnay a few years back it was aggree'd that this would be the way forward to make sure the scale creep that had crept in was killed off. Since we started to release new ranges and fill the gaps in the old ranges this has been our new sculpting model.

We keep marketing them as 15mm as this is how the range began and we feel that the 15mm is a good guide range. Some of them might be bigger than XX companys 15mm and smaller than other XX companys 15mm models but this is apparent on alot of ranges of models from a lot of other companies.

When you purchase a 28mm model you are sometimes getting something more akin to a 25mm model and other times something more like a 32mm model. In all scales there are variations of what "xxmm" they are. We are happy with ours being called 15mm. They might not mix with all other 15mm models on the market but if you look at any scale you will see variations accross different companies ranges.

If you can please finish all the ranges that you already have then why would you want to mix them with other companies figures????

I only build an army from 1 manufacturer….i will wait until the company has finished a range before shelling out any cash….i know some people mix figs but this is not an option for me.

Cheers Andy(who has happily painted 1000's of Xyston figs)

Totally second finishing off the existing ranges – Hellenistic Greek Phalangites; Tarantine cavalry; Cataphracts; shielded heavy cavalry for Pyrhus and the Republican Romans; Elephant with tower; mounted Command for the Romans and Carthaginians; chariots for the Gauls/Galations, more than enough to be getting on with.

BooneC,

Thanks for that comparison link. I hadn't seen it in a while.

TMP link

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