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Cacique Caribe16 Oct 2008 8:23 p.m. PST

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I came across a single pack a while back and just had my first real opportunity to look at the amazing detail.

WOW!!!

Are there any photos of what they look like when based? I've never collected/gamed 15mm figures so I have no idea how they should be based. Any examples out there?

Thanks.

CC
PS. Are they planning on doing more of those Iberians, other than that one pack? Or am I looking for them in the wrong place? Thanks again.

Cacique Caribe16 Oct 2008 8:33 p.m. PST

For example, in the case of skirmishers would they be mounted on individual bases (such as washers)? If so, what size?

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Cacique Caribe16 Oct 2008 8:47 p.m. PST

How do the Corvus Belli Iberians (Spanish) compare to the Xyston ones linked above?

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CC

Whatisitgood4atwork16 Oct 2008 10:54 p.m. PST

They have many fans.

Basing would depend on the rules you plan to use.

Inasmuch as there is a standard, it is WRG basing for 15mm, which is used for FOG, Warrior, DBX and a few others.

For 15mm that is a 40mm frontage. 4 figs for close order infantry (defined variously in the various sets), 3 figs for loose order and 2 for skirmishers.

Depths are 15mm for most close order, 20mm for most of the rest.

Of course if you are not planning to use those rules, there's no reason to use that convention.

As to whether Xyston are really 15mm? Well scale creep hits 15mm as well as 25s. Xyston tend to be a few mm taller than 15mm.

losart17 Oct 2008 1:19 a.m. PST

I don't find Xyston and Corvus Belli (both excellent figures) compatible. Xyston are more close to Old Glory and CB to Essex.

Boone Doggle17 Oct 2008 1:23 a.m. PST

Xyston started out pretty much "current" 15mm, i.e. 15-16mm to the eyes which is what most 15mm figures are today. This is larger than older "true" 15mm which is 15+mm to top of head.

They have undergone steady scale creep over time. The sculpts became too big for my taste round about their infamously oversized Thureophoroi.

I would say their Greeks, Spanish, Gauls and maybe Persians are pretty "standard" 15-16mm to the eyes. Their Indians and Macedonians are acceptably oversized. Their Rep Romans onwards are too big to match other lines. The oversize is not helped by the thick bases on the later figures.

I think the CB Spanish are a good match. I can take some comparison pics this weekend if you need them.

Rudorff17 Oct 2008 2:33 a.m. PST

I often browse here

littlearmies.pbwiki.com

whilst looking for inspiration. I am currently basing up a macedonian army for FoG and the fit just fine on the recommended standard basing.

Who asked this joker17 Oct 2008 6:20 a.m. PST

I don't find Xyston and Corvus Belli (both excellent figures) compatible. Xyston are more close to Old Glory and CB to Essex.

I am going to disagree with this. I've mixed Essex and OG Gauls on the same stand and they look just fine together. I've compared (but not mixed) the CB Gauls with Essex and OG and they look to work ok together. I've not done anything with Xyston figures though I hear that the Republican Romans are HUGE by any standard. If the earlier Xyston ranges mix with OG, then they should mix with Essex and others ok.

Remember, not everyone is exactly the same size. If you are really going for a natural look, then you want figures to vary a little.

John

John

Ivan DBA17 Oct 2008 8:35 a.m. PST

If you plan on buying any, you should definitely get a pin vise. Although they are sculpted with open hands for weapons, there tends to be a little bit of metal within the open hand. This is thicker than mere flash, and very difficule to remove with a craft knife. With a pin vise it it is easy and takes about 5 seconds.

Pass O' the North has some very nice Ancient Spanish too, including all troop types you need, and I think would be closer in size to Corvus Belli. Personally, I would mix Corvus with Xyston or Pass O' with no problem, but I tend to be pretty free-wheeling in that department. I think if you paint them all in the same style, and possibly put a small insert under the shorter figures, it all looks great when finished.

Cacique Caribe17 Oct 2008 9:35 a.m. PST

"Pass O' the North"?

New name to me. Thanks.

CC

Jeff Caruso17 Oct 2008 1:19 p.m. PST

"Pass O' the North"?

New name to me. Thanks.

CC
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Cacique Caribe17 Oct 2008 7:55 p.m. PST

Jeff, be kind to me. The 15mm world is ALL new to me. :)

CC

Steve Hazuka17 Oct 2008 8:19 p.m. PST

15mm the one true scale

Cacique Caribe18 Oct 2008 1:57 p.m. PST

So, who sells Corvus Belli in the US, that accepts PayPal?

Thanks.

CC

Boone Doggle18 Oct 2008 9:19 p.m. PST

Here's a pic comparing Xyson and CB.
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Cacique Caribe18 Oct 2008 11:28 p.m. PST

BooneC,

Thanks for those comparison photos!!!

Looks like I'll be getting some of these then:

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thewarstore.com/Spanish.html

Both places look like they take PayPal.

CC

madaxeman02 Nov 2008 4:08 p.m. PST

If you are looking for 15mm figures comparisons and ranges, this may help !

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Tim

Cacique Caribe02 Nov 2008 11:19 p.m. PST

Nice photos of the Corvus Belli Spanish:

link

CC

Cacique Caribe07 Nov 2008 12:40 p.m. PST

This is really a neat comparison site:

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CC

Cacique Caribe07 Nov 2008 11:49 p.m. PST

Wow. Are these prices for real?

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Boone Doggle08 Nov 2008 5:52 p.m. PST

Brookhurst, the only place for Xyston.
Source of all my Persians, Greeks and Indians. Hopefully I can fill out my Celts and Spanish before the cheap stock runs out.

AlanYork10 Nov 2008 7:40 a.m. PST

A friend of mine is replacing his Essex Macedonians with Xyston. The two don't seem compatible at all in scale.

I've never really liked Xyston much but can't put my finger on why. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing inately wrong with them, I can see why other people go for them, but they just aren't for me.

Besides, any figures that have seperate weapons kill my interest straight away. If I buy a "spearman", I'm damned if I'm going to pay extra for the spear that should be provided in the first place!

Plus there's no way I am going to be messing around after a game sticking spears, javelins etc back on and fixing up the areas where the superglue ripped the paint away as the javelin "pinged" off. I'll stick with my Essex Miniatures figures, they have weapons moulded on and, touch wood, no broken pikes yet after 15 years service.

Boone Doggle11 Nov 2008 5:50 a.m. PST

Xyston hands are designed to be drilled out and spears inserted. I use nylon bristles and once done the spears are tougher and look better than cast on lead spears.

The separate shields OTOH are a real pain in the rear end. Every time I play I have a few to glue back on.

I personally love the Xyston style but I can understand why some might not. They are sculpted deep and square so features are exaggerated.

Xyston Macedonians are the beginning of the scale creep that ended up making their Rep Romans unusable for many of us.

Cacique Caribe29 Sep 2009 6:35 p.m. PST

More awesomenessssss . . .

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Cacique Caribe11 Oct 2009 9:16 p.m. PST

Check this out guys:

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Looks like the Brookhurst discount is still on!!!

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