| boggler | 12 Mar 2009 3:24 a.m. PST |
I'm looking for a two sides of A4 style fast play ruleset for the transistional steam / early ironclad era. I've got a Tumbling Dice 1/2400 French fleet and would like to be able to use around 20+ models per side without loads of bookkeeping, time or complicated maths. Any suggestions? |
| Martin Rapier | 12 Mar 2009 5:04 a.m. PST |
De Bellis Navalis by Colin Standish? TMP link These are a great set of rules, I can't recommend them highly enough. I've done the whole of Tshushima in an hour with them. DBA with battleships, so no complicated book-keeping, tracking each shell etc. Very clever C3 system which encourages manouvre by formations, not individual ships. |
| Scale Creep Miniatures | 12 Mar 2009 5:49 a.m. PST |
The fast-play rules by Ben King would work perfectly for you: link I'll need to check which set has a suitable fleet list for you. They do have a bit of simple damage tracking but are otherwise quick to learn/teach and playable in a few hours. Mark "Extra Crispy" Severin
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| Allen57 | 12 Mar 2009 7:27 a.m. PST |
I will second the recommendation of the De Bellis Navalis rules. Good fun for those of us who are not into all the details of naval warfare and ship charts. I have one of the sets of Ben Kings rules also and find that if you want a bit more detail without going to General Quarters or SeaKrieg that they work well but they do require a bit more than the one page A4 requirement you desire. Al |
John Leahy  | 12 Mar 2009 2:56 p.m. PST |
What about Phil Barker's Damn Battleships Again. Yahoo Group
link Rules homepage
link |
| Allen57 | 12 Mar 2009 6:42 p.m. PST |
Has anyone played DBSA and could comment on them? I downloaded and read the rules. Not sure of the impact of Barkerese but I was not inspired enough to try them. Im always looking for a good simple predred game and they could be it. The basing in particular didnt do much though I have to admit it is probably more realistic than anything I am used to. |
| John Leahy | 12 Mar 2009 7:19 p.m. PST |
I actually have played several games with them. While I prefer using Grand Fleets by MJ 12 I have found my large games using DBSA to be fast and fun. They have a subtle amount of detail in them which surprised me. They do have a decent following. There are a LOAD of supporting materials and Orders of Battle for Russo-Japanese and Span Am amongst others at the Yahoo group. They are worth a look! Thanks, John |
| John Leahy | 12 Mar 2009 7:19 p.m. PST |
I ignore the basing. Thanks, John |
| boggler | 13 Mar 2009 3:51 a.m. PST |
Thanks, DBN looks promising. A lot of pre-dreadnaught rules seem to be too late for what I'm thinking of but may be worth a look. |
| donlowry | 02 May 2009 7:04 p.m. PST |
There's the old set of rules Tom Wham and I wrote back in the '70s called (believe it or not) "Ironclad," if you can still find a copy: just a few half-sized pages in a little green booklet. |
