"The Holy Mormoan Kingdom Blog" Topic

Hi All
I've added another Regimental History and uniform details to my Imagi-Nation Blog.
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The 7th Foot, "Von Manstien's" is introduced.
Cheers

Huh?

CC

CC
Say what you mean.
T

In short, The Holy Mormoan Kingdom Of New Wales is an "Imagi-nation"?
Imagi-nations are fictional nations, (often set in the period 17C to early 19C).

Their purpose is often to be used for wargamer's campaigns, but it appears to me their main purpose seems to be to give an outlet for creativity! Allowing individuals to design political organisations and armies free from the historical constraints, and diving into such details as uniform design, Orders Of Battle, and the creation of constantly evolving purpose and direction for the development of the gamer's Armies in minature.

And a specially promising new 'Lace Wars' Imagi-Nation and blog – with the occasional 'tongue in cheek' undertones that are part of this peculiar 'Old School Wargaming' tradition.

For the curious mind, some 80 links to such blogs on 'Monte-Cristo' link (about half of them contributor to the 'Emperor vs Elector' collective blog emperor-elector.blogspot.com : the diversity of approaches is really amazing.

I thought this was about Mormans in Samoa.;-)

Yeah, in the US the Mormons can evoke some pretty strong emotions, especially in the west, both pro and con. Mormoan sounds close enough that my initial thought was that there was some linkage.

Rich

"an Imagi-nation? Imagi-nations are fictional nations, (often set in the period 17C to early 19C)."

Ah. I get it now. Thanks! :)

CC

D&D for Lace Wars!

"..in US the Mormons can evoke some pretty strong emotions"
Any similarity to the Mormons is coincidental.
Wargame Forums are the last place you want religious discussion.

I picked the Mormoans, for, well; "MORE MOANS".
All the traveling! "Are we there yet, are we there yet".

BTW, I'm a baptised LDS myself.

trailape

---I picked the Mormoans, for, well; "MORE MOANS". ---

I had an old girlfriend like that!

Cheers,

Pro…

Pro
Haven't we all?
Cheers
Trailape

What is a 'LDS'?

Excuse my ignorance.

LDS = "Latter Day Saints"
Long version: The Church Of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints; (The Mormons).
Baptized, (but not practicing).

Hi

And there are an amazing number of samoans in Utah!

R

Hey
Now there is an idea!
I could conceivable include Samoans in my Army. The colonist sailed right passed those islands,…

One of the enjoyable potentialities of 'oversea' (for us Europeans) colonial Imagi-Nations.
Allows to use minis manufactured to be used in another century, and from all the areas passed through by the colonists:
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Dress them in 'exotic' colors, give them a 'white' cadre in 'adapted' European clothes (French marines campaigning in Canada, 'emphatically NOT "Pirates of the Carribean"' Black Scorpion marines…) in the same colors, and you'll be allowed to paint marines in pink, fuschia, lavander or lemon yellow…

Your "Mormoans" are astonishingly similar to the "Mormons" of the real history of our world.

I'm thinking not a coincidence.

The Mormons didn't sail to the other side of the world.
:o)
The "HOLY" bit is inspired by "The Holy ROMAN EMPIRE". I like the Austrian uniforms.

Trailape,

Nice background . . . do you have any other "Aussie" gamers to play competing Imagi-Nations?

It would be great to see a "southern version" of Emperor vs Elector.

-- Jeff
emperor-elector.blogspot.com

Hi Jeff
As of yet, none. But I'm hopeful.
Failing that, a solo campaign is an option.
Cheers

Or one of the things that a number of "Emperor vs Elector" members have done is to either play 'proxy battles' or 'play by email'.

In fact the Grand Duchy of Stollen is currently playing out a 'play by email' game. He is in Illinois and his opponent is in North Carolina. They are playing out a battle between Stokes' Grand Duchy and his opposing imagi-nation, with Jonathan emailing his moves. To see this, go to:

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And go back to November 28 of this year when the action started. They are using the "Charge" rules -- but around a year ago we had a big 'proxy battle' played out by a fellow in Arkansas and his wife using the Koenig Krieg rules.

-- Jeff

excellent Trailape!

We are about to start a iagi campaign this year in 28mm, see the cardinals post for further info on the great Pangean campaign!

Hi Bluewillow
"iagi campaign" ?

I meant Imagi, me and my spelling……..

A liitle early for the Magi, indeed (will they introduce camels in Australia?
What about a HMKNW camel corps btw? Minis of Bonaparte's Regiment des Dromadaires in 'quasi-Mameluk' uniform would prive a convenient basis…).

Special compliments for the imaginative background and the excellent 'regimental histories and anecdotes' -all original, different and perfectly credible, and of the calibre of the 'best' historical ones always quoted in the litterature.

Cacique Caribe,
'alternate 18th C.' offers a specially intringuing possibilities in the Gulf of Mexico / Carribean area ( Pirates and Pirettes link meet traditional Spaniards still wearing morions with their 18th C. uniforms – you can ever add anything from Voodoo zombies to the mad scientist / would be Master of the World with Da Vinciesque – Munchaunesian contraptions; and King Kong, of course…
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Hi

A long time ago I set up a sort of 19th century campaign set on a Borrows type "counter earth" with 1889 "eather flyers". Having the technology discoverd, only working for large boats.

Essentially gave my group to have ACW and other period armies meet on the new world trying to take it all for themselves. Silly premise.

R

Many thanks for the kind words.
I must say when you have such a vested interest in your miniature "enlisted swine", you do tend to get involved in the minute details (uniforms. histories, who will be the Honorary Colonel Commandant, etc).
I wonder how reluctant I'll be to get them to march into the face of a Battery of 12 pounders?

I wonder how reluctant I'll be to get them to march into the face of a Battery of 12 pounders?
Of course: they are your children and you're sending them to death – for me I can perfectly understand that.
So much the more as, if you are so inclined, regardless of the rules you are using -and even if you are reluctant to confess it to yourself- you'll tend to share the 'Old School Wargamer' feeling that each mini is an 'individual', not a mere 3D marker of a group of 20-50 'real' (!!!) persons ('persons' not to be PC, but because I fielded Amazons and you'll have a Maiden Guard regiment).

Don't try to react my repeating they're just to soldiers, it would not work. Precisely because a wargamer seeing himself as an adult playing with toy soldiers is NOT a 'serious', adult 'simulationist'; but someone who was lucky enough to keep a part of children's imagination, ability to 'immerge' in his own figments, gift of 'willing suspension of disbelief' – what Cocteau expressed by "All children are poets".

Then PLAY SOLO.
According to my experience, it's not that 'contradictory attachments' simply canceal each other and disappear. But you get the feeling of a coach conducting a training session.
Of course you can have Frontier / FIW types scenarios involving Natives (Debated Political Correctness Warning TMP link !). But, to enjoy more of a 'classical' Lace Wars campaign, the HMKNW can face the appetites of European major Powers. It would be disappointing to have the HMKNW merely challenged by bland 'historical' types -and these would not be 'yours'. But what about the private armies of some "Compagnie d'Exploration [read: 'Exploitation'] des Antipodes" and its British, Russian, perhaps Dutch, Portuguese and Spanish equivalents?

Cheers,
Jean-Louis

this thread is making my head hurt

Hi

Jean-Louis, I am a native american, having been born here!

I did spend much of my childhood with navajo, zuni, hopi and apache plus mexicans and mestizo, being the token non "indian" in my neighborhood. THEN, the 50s, people were obsessed with tribe and clan affiliation, not ever mentioning "native american".

Thus, I dismiss the nonsense and get on with the subject!

Rocky