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abdul666lw11 Nov 2008 9:38 a.m. PST

On the parallel threads TMP link and TMP link blogger Prinz Geoffrey asked for counsels for the defense of his 18th C. Imagi-Nation against raiding ±Turkish / Bizercann bizercca.blogspot.com pirates to land from their xebecs.
andygamer suggested «to the [Grand?] Duke that if pirates, brigands or smugglers are causing problems, that he raise a regiment of true dragoons (i.e. infantry mounted on poor quality horses for transport and not for fighting from except in extremis) based in the port town with squadrons patrolling the area.»
Then, as mentioned in various 'Cavenderian' threads here, Prinz Geoffrey is currently publishing regulations for his army, and welcomes suggestions about uniforms. The currently published § deal only with the infantry: cavenderia.blogspot.com I'm sure Prince Geoffrey would appreciate to know how andygamer -and anybody else: John the OFM is an expert in Dragoons…- endvisages the uniform (and guidon) of this unit.
(Btw, the Landgraf of Ober-Schweinberg link is also asking for infantry & dragoons uniforms suggestions…).

Imho, Dragoons intended to fight as mounted infantry would probably wear 'bottines' (leather gaiters) rather than heavy cavalry boots – thus among the so useful "NBA" uniform templates nba-sywtemplates.blogspot.com the most appropriate may be a French Dragoon in tricorn:
link
and link
though, to have an uniform more 'modern' / more in accordance with the current Cavenderian style cavenderia.blogspot.com , it's rather easy by copy & paste to sustitute a tricorn to the helmet of the Schomberg Dragoon:
link (coat with lapels & without buttonholes lacing).

What do you suggest, both for the defense of Cavenderia and for the uniforms of any additional troops required ?

Note that one doesn't need to have a blog to have a blogger ID (allowing to post comments on other people's blog – or to contribute to a "collective" blog such as 'Emperor vs Elector' emperor-elector.blogspot.com ). When you try to post a comment on a blog not allowing 'anonymous' comments, you have a link to the connexion to blogger, there another link allowing to create your blogger ID.
You can post a "photo" on your blogger profile: in the 'EvE group, most of us place instead the coat-of-arms or flag of their Imagi-Nation, or the portrait of its ruler (their 'avatar' in the role of this ruler): this provides a pleasant 'visual signature' of your comments to blog messages.
Now at least 4 members of 'EvE', while having thus a blogger ID, have not yet posted there: hopefully they will soon come out of the closet!

Jean-Louis
Aka Louys de Monte-Cristo
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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2008 12:40 p.m. PST

Are they "Fancy-Schmancy" dragoons, or low life scum of the Earth?
Late 18th C or early?
Mine are for my strange early 18th C skirmish and Pirate nonsense. No factual or historical accuracy is claimed.
Anyway, here is what I have, both painted, and in my "Maybe I'll get to them next July" box.

I have a low-life dragoon unit that I call "The Bad Company". They were inspired in part by Obadiah Hakeswill's Own Deserters and Ne'er Do Well Light Dragoons. They are Dixon Marlburian dragoons, in a stunning variety of coat colors and hats.

My Hoity-toity dragoons are the Old Glory Governor's Guards, from their Pirates range. Fops to the core, they have canary yellow coats and crimson facings. Plumed tricornes, of course.

In the box, waiting, are a bag of Old Glory's Fitzjames Horse, from the Jacobite range. They will eventually be a respectable no-nonsense veteran unit of Horse.

If you want posh late 19th C dragoons, AWI British Legion have a nice hat. Perry are the default quality recommended range. Some ranges may even have the leggings you require.
You might also want to check out various Napoleon in Egypt rangs, like Old Glory. In the "next July" box, I have some British dragoons who will become Yeoman Cavalry for the '98.

If you want dismounted tricorne dragoons in leggings, and not boots, look to AWI ranges for Brunswick dismounted dragoons. Hessian jaegers may fit the bill, too.

Hussars in Mirleton have a charm and class unsurpassed. IMHO. I have Lauzun's Legion for the AWI, and use both Copplestone Foundry SYW hussars. They come with optional pelisse. Old Glory and Battle Honours have mirleton hatted ussars with lance.

As for colors to paint your glorious units, I would not presume to venture a guess.
However, my sedan chair bearers for my Count are liveried in Albatros Mauve (Misterkit paint) coats with crimson facings.
Speaking of which, check out Eureka's brad new SYW Saxon cavalry, and WAS Dutch for non-traditional dragoons.

You might also want to check out the Old Glory Renaissance Turkish range for wild and woolie Balkan auxiliary types.
If your units are on the Turkish frontier, a little bit of imitation and recruiting might bring you Dellis LC.

Sadly, I know of no War of Jenkins' Ear Bavarian Horse Grenadier units, metal or plastic. Hiatus valde deflendus.

Fire at Will11 Nov 2008 12:49 p.m. PST

May I suggest the use of a wurst-korps (Frundsberg patent pending). This makes use of specialist troop transport wagons (wurst wagons)to carry a rapid response force of elite infantry to meet the necessary threat. This combined with the use of post-horses to replace exhausted beasts means that a large number of elite troops can be quickly mustered at the critical point. Apparently some Corsican upstart has claimed to have used a similar method to transport his guard troops across Europe.

Baron Wilhelm

Prinz Geoffrey11 Nov 2008 3:05 p.m. PST

Will definitely send Dragoons to the coast ASAP. Thanks Jean.

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