"Plastic Napoleonic 28s" Topic

I read about a new company, Victrix Limited in Battlegames. I've just come off their website and suggest anyone thats interested go and take a look at the next step in plastics.
I am impressed by what I saw of the gallery shots I guess they are of the masters. Roll on release date
Website can be found at victrixlimited.com

i cant wait for them to do french, or branch out into AWI?

Old news: TMP link

We are all waiting for these!!!

No AWI from what I've heard. After Brits and French, Austrians, Russians, etc.

Brings up two questions:

1. Why Brits? (Is Victrix a British company?); or, in other words, why not start with the French, who would be needed no matter which front/opponent you are interested in?

2. Why 28mm? Or, in other words, why not 15/18mm, which seems to be the most common scale for Napoleonics.

- 2. Why 28mm? Or, in other words, why not 15/18mm, which seems to be the most common scale for Napoleonics. –

Why not? Should every range be 15/18mm because it's the most popular? And, I might add, 28mm Napoleonics seem pretty popular looking at the myriads of new ranges in the last year or so…

Because the Perry's are doing French?

Yep, the Perry's have started with French, and the Victrix are also doing a lot of Peninsular War stuff. Julian showed me the 3-up masters at Redoubt, and tehy are stunning, incorporating a huge amount of character, bushy sideburns, snarling faces and so on.

Also, don't forget the recent release of the TooFatLardies "Sharp Practice" rules which will provide an instant home for ranges like this, being pitched somewhere between pure skirmish gaming and the "General de Brigade" type of tactical game.

And in any case, at least here in the UK, I've seen large numbers of 28mm Napoleonic games at shows, so I don't see the dominance of 15/18mm in particular. The colossal Waterloo game put on by Loughton Strike Force at Salute is just one that will stick in my mind for a long time, and well-painted Perry or Victrix plastics would sit very nicely on one of Paul Darnell's/Bill Gaskin's lovely Peninsular War layouts.

Henry
Battlegames

What to do with all my Airfix Frenchies? They will look like Hobbits. I've seen the Perry ACW and they look pretty good, so I hope the Brits look as good too. There is a resurgance in 25mm Nappies here in Austin,Tx.,and I might like to do a Brit force

Mr Blakeney-Edwards is also behind the Valiant WWII hard plastic figures.
Lets hope hes learned to make these figs compatable with existing 28mm ranges

I agree with the other guys, given the Perry's have already announced they are going to do Plastic French infantry, the British are a sensible choice.

As for 15/18mm plastic, I'm not sure that would be viable financially given the relative cheapness of the metal versions.

Wow! More great priced goodies for me to buy for Sharpe Practice. And boxes of 52 figures too. :-)

OK. Fair enough.

52 figs….so thats probably 4 sprues of 13 …curious to see how many standard bearers, drumers and officers you end up with.

Or 1 sprue of officers, drummers, etc, and 3 sprues of geezers.

Have a look at future releases, they're not messing about, are they?

link

Hope they sell a million of 'em!

John

damn, they must have some serious cash backing this company.

Well, its this old chestnut of how injection moulding costs many tens of thousands …..which I simply don't believe…a few thousands maybe, but look at HaT, Prieser (how many the obscure sets of wierd railway stuff do Prieser actually sell?- not many)…..I've heard 30 grand to set up for tooling a set of figures- Nonsense! …… bang em out at 20 a box …you still have to sell 1500 sets (with NO wholesale discounts) to break even….can't see how it can actually cost more than 1/2 that at most. Other wise you simply wouldn't bother.

Hi chistot – your "30 grand" # is low for hard plastic.

HaT etc are soft plastic and they can get away with a different type of tooling that costs much, MUCH less.

All the best,
Tony

Tony Reidy
Wargames Factory
wargamesfactory.com

A lot of Prieser stuff is hard plastic and cannot possibly sell in any volume, With respect Tony, I simply don't believe the costs to be that great, or that at least these guys (and others) have found a manufacturer who will/can do it cheaply. I hope so anyway, otherwise they ain't going to see their cash again for a LONG time

Main problem I see with these is the same as the Perry plastics – I dont like firing figures. If you chuck those away, the cost is much more comparable with metals, in which case I would say stick with those. If only they were all marching or advancing.

Why not British? We won the Bally thing and paid for the rest of our Allies to show up………. (heh heh)

good point, well made…….

I agree with Union Jack,I'm not a fan of firing figures but a bit of effort with a razor saw and liquid poly and no firing stances. That the beauty of hard plastic they are ripe for conversion.

I dont like firing figures

A pacifist wargamer.

Its those ones in uniforms that I can't stand

I love firing figures. Afterall, that is what soldiers do in battle.

I to love firing figs,
looks great on the table, espaclay if you take pics

Der Alte Fritz and Gunfreak. Do you ever photograph these same units when they are marching down a road shooting the guy in front? My point is that marching or advancing poses are much more versatile. Thats why I use them exclusively. I'm not saying I'm against plastic figures, just that when you take into account the inconvenient packaging they are, well, expensive.

At the moment we dont know how many figures there will be in each pose so its a little premature to decide on the true cost if you don't use all the poses.
Simon

I agree with Union Jack, too. In the battlefield no more of 15-20% of the presents were firing in full accion. So 6/8 figures firing/loading per pack would be good or better, in separated packs for skirmishing. Full packs in Advancing/Marching poses, please.

I think it kinda depends of what type of games you play.

if you play grand armee, then I agree, I would want ALL my figs in marching posssions.

as you ware moving whole brigades around, and it gives the whole thing a larger scope. kinda like the old fashon type where kings moved wooden piecees around a map of europe.

but I play brigade size games, moving battalions/regiments around. so I rearly if ever have soldiers moving on roads.
and you have alot more "action" not uncommen to have large parts of your force in action shooting ect.

Probably not new news to some but I got hold of a copy of Battlegames magazine number 13 today and in his column, Mike Siggins mention he had a chat with Alan Perry at the Partizan show. Alan said that for the Perry French infantry there will be 'forage cap, bonnets de police and other head varients. There will also be greatcoats'
Great news for creating French regiments for the late war. I'm sure the greatcoat wearers could also be used for leger and if they've got round pompom Young Guard too.