| Cacique Caribe | 22 Jul 2007 1:32 a.m. PST |
Rivals of the Inca, the kingdom of Chimor covered quite a large area along the coast (in purple here): link They built their desert capital city, Chan-Chan, with brick instead of stone like the Incas: picture
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Chan
link The #3 fella on this plate is identified as a Chimu: picture
link Question: Are there any other representations of the Chimu warriors, by modern illustrators? Thanks. CC |
| platypus01au | 22 Jul 2007 6:37 a.m. PST |
Hi CC, Ian Heath, Armies of the 16th C, Armies of the Aztecs, the Incas, etc… link Fig 150 p 96 Looks much like the Osprey illustration. Not sure how good it is. Richardson might have done an article for Slingshot? Wait… Here we are. Slingshot #235, p13. King Minchcaman of the Chimor Empire and the Conquest of the North, R. A. Richardson. With illustrations. Note that I _believe_ it was Richardson that sponsored the 15m (really 20 mm, I could kill him) South American range from Falcon. Falcon was bought by Quartermaster, and he can't be contacted. I've reviewed these figures. See
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picture Hope this helps,
JohnG
PS: I'll have to go and re-visit my web-site and get it up to date. One day when I have time…. |
Troop of Shewe  | 22 Jul 2007 8:10 a.m. PST |
Any chance of a scan or copy of the slingshot article? The Heath and the osprey illusration are similar although the osprey headgear interpretation doesn't match the Heath text (if that make sense). CC, i'll upload both tonight or tomorrow for your comparision. Thats if you havent googled a complete OrBat and dress regulations for them by then -lol- |
| Cacique Caribe | 22 Jul 2007 9:14 p.m. PST |
Wonderful info, guys! Many thanks. CC |
| Paul A Hannah | 24 Jul 2007 1:43 a.m. PST |
Dear CC, you can see a few of my 15mm Chimu (Mikes Models / Essex) in the background of this picture. link I based my paint-schemes on two sources:
1) the info in that one plate in the Osprey book you cited
2) what limited info I could on the 'net on surviving Chimu / Chimor textile designs. Very sketchy that, but enough to distinguish them slightly from the Incas.
//Paul in Seattle |
| crhkrebs | 24 Jul 2007 8:00 a.m. PST |
One thing to remember about the Osprey illustration of the Chimor warrior is that he is clearly marked as a warrior of the Inca empire. He is wearing an Uncu in the manner of other non-Quechua Inca soldiers, with the designs and patterns indicating national origen. What that means is we don't know what Chimor warriors wore prior to their absorption into the Inca Empire. Ralph |
| Rudysnelson | 24 Jul 2007 12:40 p.m. PST |
The largest range of Inca and Chimu-Chimor and other South American indians are by Quatermaster in 18mm. |
| platypus01au | 24 Jul 2007 7:49 p.m. PST |
Rudy wrote: > The largest range of Inca and Chimu-Chimor and
> other South American indians are by Quatermaster in 18mm. Very true. However I challenge you to actually BUY them…… ;-) <- a smilely thing. To Troop of Shewe If you go to my web-site platypus01.actewagl.net.au My e-mail address is there (as a jpg BTW) E-mail me your address and I'll post you that article and the one on the Chanca. I'm in Australia so it may be slow….. G^is,
JohnG |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2008 9:38 a.m. PST |
Finally sufficient 28mm figure choices for Inca: TMP link Maybe the Chimu/Chimor will be next!!! CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2008 10:00 a.m. PST |
"One thing to remember about the Osprey illustration of the Chimor warrior is that he is clearly marked as a warrior of the Inca empire. He is wearing an Uncu in the manner of other non-Quechua Inca soldiers, with the designs and patterns indicating national origen.
What that means is we don't know what Chimor warriors wore prior to their absorption into the Inca Empire." Osprey illustration:
picture Pre-Inca Conquest Chimu(?):
link If not from Chan Chan carvings, then maybe something can be gleaned from other Chimu/Chimor pottery examples? CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2008 10:08 a.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2008 10:17 a.m. PST |
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| crhkrebs | 02 Jun 2008 11:52 a.m. PST |
What that means is we don't know what Chimor warriors wore prior to their absorption into the Inca Empire. Sadly, yes. Ralph |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2008 1:30 p.m. PST |
There's more to go by for the Chimor than what we have available for Hebrews, Syrians and Midianites. Yet that doesn't keep people from extrapolating from the few bits available. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 03 Jun 2008 11:01 a.m. PST |
This is interesting: link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 03 Jun 2008 11:09 a.m. PST |
Except for the headress and the lack of a loincloth, the Moche guy in the back of this illustration, with the red and white swirls, looks a lot like the Chimu soldier in the Osprey: link Osprey: picture Hmmm. CC |
