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Cacique Caribe23 Apr 2007 8:58 a.m. PST

Based on these links and on what you know of WWI U-Boat warfare . . .

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uboat.net/history/wwi/index.html

Would you say that these coul work as additional crew for a WWI U-Boat?
Or are they not suitable for WWI submarine service?

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Thanks!!!

CC
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Cacique Caribe23 Apr 2007 9:05 a.m. PST

PS. Is there not a WWI Discussion Board? I could not find one.

CC

Plynkes23 Apr 2007 9:19 a.m. PST

Whether or not they could work, they are what I used. If you're planning some more Edgar Rice Burroughs fun on Caprona (which I suspect you are), I don't think anyone is going to pick you up on the exact uniform details of your German sailors.

If they do, point out that the fellows in question are fighting dinosaurs and their weill-intentioned pickyness might be better directed at them.


We used to have WWI boards. But one day Bill had a funny turn and changed all their names for the benefit of people who can't read, or something. Don't ask me, it makes no sense as far as I'm concerned.

SauveQuiPeut23 Apr 2007 9:20 a.m. PST

Not 100% sure, but I believe a WWI U-Boat is classed as a 'Battlewagon' hereabouts…

CLDecker23 Apr 2007 9:23 a.m. PST

Hi

One thing to keep in mind is that the sailors did not wear the dress uniform while at sea, so I would also suspect a boarding or landing party would not be taking time out to change into thier dress blues/whites.

Next to my desk is a photo of the USS R-5, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii with the entire crew on deck for a command photo. It is dated March 17th 1929, and my dear old grandpa is right there standing tall in his dress whites. He once told me that at sea they looked and smelled like ragpickers after a 10 day drunk.

I clearly kept his stories of sub service in the 20's in mind once I joined the Navy and ran like hell for the surface fleets!

Some of the Brigade Games line of merchant crews and U-boat crews could easily fit the bill for the period with little or no conversions.

SauveQuiPeut23 Apr 2007 9:24 a.m. PST

Not sure about the collars on the figures…makes them look too well-dressed to be submariners.

SauveQuiPeut23 Apr 2007 9:25 a.m. PST

Beaten to it grin

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2007 10:56 a.m. PST

Fisherman-type sweaters and undershirts might be more like it. King Kong merchant seamen with guns might work.

GoodBye23 Apr 2007 1:09 p.m. PST

At sea a submarine crew tends to be reasonably relaxed.

Undershirts, dungarees and deck shoes were all the rage on my boat. I wore an Olive Green Army sweater, blue jeans and addidas sneakers while on board.

Casual, comfortable and quiet clothing has always been in vogue with the silent service.

Donald~

Two Ducks Pond23 Apr 2007 1:59 p.m. PST

Brigade Game do the Merchant Seaman crew with open hands in a variety of clothing plus the U-Boat Winter crew with MG and Viola a beautiful looking U-Boat crew :-)

Two Ducks Pond23 Apr 2007 2:00 p.m. PST

That is Brigade Games do the best Merchant Crew and U-Boat crew!

Cacique Caribe23 Apr 2007 8:23 p.m. PST

Brigade Games it is then!

I'll place my order (7-10 packs) in the next week or two.

Thanks all.

CC

For Sale24 Apr 2007 2:06 a.m. PST

There's also a Merchant Crew for the MG too, but I don't think they're on the main site yet

Plynkes24 Apr 2007 2:54 a.m. PST

In most of the pictures I have seen of U-Boat men in the Great War, they do indeed wear the more casual attire which is as usual for submariners. Jumpers, simple jackets, overalls, that type of thing. However, they also almost always seem to be wearing the traditional sailors hats (unlike their 1939-45 counterparts).

So perhaps some headswaps are in order? My excuse is that there was nothing else available at the time. I'm quite happy with "near enough" for now.


I'm no expert, but to my eyes those U-Boat Maxim gunners are wearing the wrong gear to be Great War. The summer crew are totally WWII, and one of the winter crew has a kind of field cap type affair on that wasn't worn in the Great War. He needs a head swap with one of Brigade Great War Sailors, for my money.

For Sale24 Apr 2007 4:04 a.m. PST

All the Brigade U-boat crew were really designed to be 20's-30's pulp figures.
In reality crews worn a lot of civilian gear, tank tops, wolly hats, pimpsoles, most of the photos you see are back in port where they have had to smarten up a bit.

The cold weather crew wear the leather overalls that remained the same in both wars, but one pack has a figure with a Bergmann MP18 which would date it to the end of the WWI or later, the others all carry the long model Mauser so they would be OK for WWI. The tropical pack would be better suited to the late 30's and WWII (more of an Indiana Jones time frame)

Two Ducks Pond24 Apr 2007 5:22 a.m. PST

Perhaps we need to raise this on Brigade Games Yahoo group to have some U-Boat crew with sailor caps and maybe helmets for the manning of the main armament and or secondary armament and some with open hands in both Winter and Summer rig. Just be nice for variety and in the same vein as Poly is talking about.

Richard we do appreciate your lovely work. :-)

God Bless

Helen

The Captain of the Gate24 Apr 2007 8:31 a.m. PST

As an aside, my father knew a WW I U-boat veteran back in the 30's. Conditions aboard the subs were so bad that he punctured his ear drums with a pencil to avoid being sent back out to sea, or so Dad told me. Unfortunately I can't help with anything, both men are gone now.

Two Ducks Pond24 Apr 2007 3:22 p.m. PST

I'd also be happy to see the current available U-Boat Figures in sailor cap and helmet where appropriate and to have a stick magazine for the MP18/28 and a upgraded MG or small QF cannon for the U-Boat Gun crew to provide the inter war period a bit of variety. Considering we are talking Pulp/Hollywood etc and the what ifs left to our own imagination.

Richard just a reflection and thought about this topic and again we are promoting your lovely figure design.

God Bless

Helen

Two Ducks Pond26 Apr 2007 2:17 a.m. PST

Oops, Sorry Richard, I just noticed that my Winter U-Boat Crew with the SMG is indeed the MP 28 with stick magazine.

Perfect in every way :-)

God Bless

Helen

Devils Guard26 Apr 2007 11:31 p.m. PST

The U Boat crew are excellent and I'd like to request also some German U-Boat crew in sailor caps and helmets. Would be a very welcome addition for the current surface fleet available.

Cheers

DG

Plynkes27 Apr 2007 1:40 a.m. PST

Please don't let anyone get the impression I was slagging off the figures. I think they are great. I was just saying that they weren't quite right for the Great War (due to some of the headgear), which was what Cacique Caribe was originally asking about.

Cacique Caribe27 Apr 2007 8:32 a.m. PST

Thanks everyone.

CC

Cacique Caribe24 Aug 2007 3:05 p.m. PST

To welcome the U-boat crew on the icy parts of Caprona . . .

Here are some Copplestone cavemen I have started to dress for glacial weather:

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Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

Dan
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Cacique Caribe19 Jul 2008 5:27 p.m. PST

So, for the "Land That Time Forgot" (Caprona/Caspak) German U-Boat crew and officers . . .

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Would you go with these instead (WWI German Sailors)?

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CC

raducci29 Jul 2008 5:23 a.m. PST

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Nice?

Cacique Caribe07 Aug 2008 7:33 p.m. PST

WOW!!!!

CC

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