| johannes55 | 01 May 2024 4:38 a.m. PST |
When did the french change the gun, Limber and carriage colours from grey'blue to green? |
| Cockney yokel | 01 May 2024 4:48 a.m. PST |
I thought the French artillery colours were red during the 7 years war and French Indian wars?
I didn't think they had carriages of blue/grey, but started using olive/green during the Revolutionary period. Anyone with more details? |
| johannes55 | 01 May 2024 5:38 a.m. PST |
They changed from red to blue/bluegrey and then to green |
| Bernard1809 | 01 May 2024 9:27 p.m. PST |
Intéressant.
Je ne connaissais pas ces changements de couleurs. |
| Trockledockle | 01 May 2024 11:20 p.m. PST |
An extension to this question. Did the US have blue-grey carriages or green in 1812? I've seen sources that show either. |
robert piepenbrink  | 03 May 2024 9:49 a.m. PST |
Here's the best I've found, trockledockle, and it says "mostly blue, but also olive green, red and sometimes gray."
link My gut feeling is that olive green became more common as we shifted to block (or "stock") trails c. 1818, not looking the same as British being an important consideration. And on the same thinking, I'd expect the French abandoned blue--the royal livery color--about the time they proclaimed the First Republic. But I'd trade a lot of gut feeling for a very short written order in either case. |
| von Winterfeldt | 04 May 2024 4:47 a.m. PST |
it was transitional, in the French Revolution you see already the "green" to appear, but the grey ones were still in use, in fact there are two Martinet plates showing a gunner with a grey and also a green artillery carriages, the old waggons, build in the Ancien Regime stayed red here from the Beresina url=https://postimages.org/]
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| Trockledockle | 04 May 2024 1:41 p.m. PST |
Robert Piepenbrink, Thanks very much. That's very useful. |
| johannes55 | 07 May 2024 8:43 a.m. PST |
Vw thanks for the info.
I thought that years ago a simular question was asked here on TMP but cannot find it.
I also cannot find an official reglement which give the official orders to change the colouring. I suppose there must be something. I have painted my FR guns/limbers and caissons in a blue grey colour but suppose have to change that |
| Prince of Essling | 07 May 2024 9:19 a.m. PST |
See discussion on "SYW French Artillery Colours" at TMP link |
| johannes55 | 07 May 2024 3:34 p.m. PST |
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| summerfield | 28 May 2024 3:48 p.m. PST |
I have publshed upon this.
SOJ-14 Artillery Tables by Sir Howard Douglas, Gerhard von Scharnhorst and the Royal Artillery 2024
SOJ-13 Defence of Britain against Napoleon: Barracks, Fortifications, Muskets, Rifles, and Shorncliffe 2023
SOJ-12 American Civil War Rifled Artillery 2023
SOJ-11 British Heavy Iron Ordnance 1727-1860 2019
SOJ-10 American Civil War Smoothbore Artillery 2018
SOJ-09 Franco-Prussian and Krupp Artillery 2016
SOJ-08 French and Russian Crimean War Artillery 2016
SOJ-07 British and Prussian Horse Artillery 2016
SOJ-06 Prussian C18th Ordnance 2016
SOJ-05 Waterloo Artillery 2015
SOJ-04 C18th Artillery 2016
SOJ-03 Austrian Artillery 7YW & Napoleonic Wars 2013
SOJ-02 Gribeauval in Austrian Service in 7YW 2012
SOJ-01 Horse Artillery 2012 British Muzzle Loading Rifled Naval Artillery (with Simon Trendall) 2023
British Muzzle Loading Rifled Garrison Artillery (with Simon Trendall) 2023
Russian Napoleonic Artillery (1787-1815) 2023
Armstrong Heavy Rifled Breech Loading Garrison, Naval and Siege Artillery: Royal Carriage Department Plans, 1860-80 (With Simon Trendal) 2021
Armstrong Field Rifled Breech Loading Ordnance and Wagons, Royal Carriage Department Plans, 1860-80 (With Simon Trendal) 2020
Saxon Artillery 1737-1815 2011
Napoleonic Artillery (with PL and AL Dawson), Crowood 2008 Stephen Summerfield |
gets started with Flintloque.