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napthyme11 May 2012 11:56 p.m. PST

Wow, now if you'd just tell me how to get that into a bottle I might have a new hobby…

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian12 May 2012 5:40 a.m. PST

Very nice. I like how the mesh works. Well done.

One comment though: My understanding is boat davits are a product of a much later era. Carrying a boat on booms over the stern was common on smaller ships of the era, but side booms did not start appearing until the middle of the 1810-1820 decade, and davits long after that. Most models and many of the more recent paintings show Victory with side boat booms before the roundhouse, but I believe that is a viral error; most contemporary paintings and those by the old masters such as Pocock do not show booms.

Again though, well done!

Oddball12 May 2012 6:09 a.m. PST

Beautiful work. The extras like rigging and the towed cutter really bring the ships to life.

Bandolier12 May 2012 3:18 p.m. PST

A useful Workbench article with a quality result. Well done Volunteer.

Bashytubits12 May 2012 5:26 p.m. PST

Very nice, almost makes me want to go out and model some napoleonic naval.

DocMagus14 May 2012 5:57 a.m. PST

Very nice, now to kick my butt into gear and do the same. I bought 12 Langton ships a year ago and I am dreading the painting and thread work. You are motivating me to get on with it though.

I look forward to see how you make out with the next batch. Please keep us info'd.

Doc

Toronto194814 May 2012 11:27 p.m. PST

Thank you for posting a very clear and detailed article. You have answered a lot of my questions

Bosco0521 May 2012 4:55 a.m. PST

Great tutorial. I've tried both the GHQ and Langton models and tend to prefer the Langton's despite the higher price. For me the details are crisper and I like the option of having brass sails vs the the metal cast once. While a bit (OK a lot) more difficult to attach, I think they look nicer.

Thanks again for the tutorial – I learned a few techniques for my next ship when that comes up on the modeling Queue.

Miles

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian21 May 2012 10:06 a.m. PST

While a bit (OK a lot) more difficult to attach

How so? I find the flexible prongs make them easier to attach.

Volunteer Fezian22 May 2012 4:02 p.m. PST

To Virtualscratchbuilder,

You are absolutely correct. I had just built Revell's plastic Constitution model which had the side booms. I thought "Ahah, I can put these on the little ships!" It wasn't until after this that I really started doing research and found they are anachronisms on my models. I had mounted davits on the stern of the HMS Shannon Frigate, taking the idea from Patrick O'Brian's HMS Surprize. I haven't put them on any ship since. A Naval History of Great Britain by William James is a great resource.

Volunteer Fezian22 May 2012 4:09 p.m. PST

To Oddball,

War ships regularly put their boats off when they beat to quarters for impending battle. They towed them to protect them from cannon fire. They would put their livestock in them as well. I always tow at least one boat for a ship at quarters.

dragon627 May 2012 9:51 a.m. PST

Volunteer wrote:
(I later found some fine net/mesh dress-trim at Hancock Fabrics that is perfect.)

Is this trim plastic or cloth? Is there a specific name I should ask about at Hancock?

Volunteer Fezian27 May 2012 7:18 p.m. PST

dragon6,

I just went in and looked at every mesh I could find. i bought three different sizes. The largest mesh was a black netting that turned out to be too large (about like the screen material I used in the article). The other two were some type of dress trim on rolls 6 to 8 inches wide. I bought 3 feet of each. One of them is perfect for the frigates and larger. The other is perfect for the smaller cutters, brigs, sloops, etc. They were white to begin with and I just spray painted them black. All of it cost under $2.00 USD.

I think they are cloth.

If I could figure out how to add a jpg photo to these posts, I could post a picture of what the good stuff looks like.

dragon628 May 2012 9:21 p.m. PST

If I could figure out how to add a jpg photo to these posts, I could post a picture of what the good stuff looks like.

If the material is online just post it's url. If you mean you have a picture of it and want to link to it you must first post the picture online. Photobucket is free but you have to make an account to be able to upload the picture.

But if that's impossible for some reason don't sweat the small stuff. Your article is great. I'll wander down to Hancocks and see if I can find such a thing.

One question is the material stiff or flexible like cloth?

Thanks!

Volunteer Fezian01 Jun 2012 7:53 p.m. PST

Dragon6,

It is relatively stiff but still flexible enough to do the job.

I don't have a website, blogsite, or anything
else. Just photos on my computer.
If you give me an e-mail I will send photos.

Volunteer Fezian02 Jun 2012 11:22 p.m. PST

OK, I finally broke down and created a blogsite. Here is the url for the photo of the mesh.

picture

The upper two meshes are from Hancock Fabrics. The bottom one is the screen mesh I used in the article and is really too big. The smaller mesh is perfect for sloops, brigs, cutters, etc. The medium size mesh is good for the frigates on up.

volsminiatures.blogspot.com

Frederick the Grape03 Dec 2013 7:48 a.m. PST

Very nice modeling

colonneh13724 Dec 2014 11:11 a.m. PST

Captain Rivet counter here. Very pretty paintwork. The ship's boat tagging astern on a painter is a nice touch. However . . . The maintopmast brace needs to be attached to the bottom of the foretopmast, not to the top of the foretopmast. All of the braces run parallel to the main brace. The main brace is the line running from just below the platform (Main top) above the mainsail down to the foremast. Nevertheless, very pretty work.

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