"Basing for Crusader, Impetus and Field of Glory" Topic

I am new to this era of historicals and just figuring out basing for 25mm. Crusader rules have a 40mm square base. Can I combine those to make an Impetus unit as well? In short is 40mm square the best way to base ancients for multiple rules?

I am really impressed with Crusader rules after a first reading by the way.

In Impetus, each Unit base for 25/28mm figures is 12cm wide. So you could easily accommodate three 40mm-square bases of infantry, or two 50mm-square bases of mounted troops, on a single Impetus sabot base.

Cheers,
Scott

I base all of my figures on metal to DBA/DBM base sizes. (40mm frontage with 15-40mm depth depending upon troop types). Then I make magentic movement trays to hold multiple bases to accomadate other rules sets (FOG, Impetus, Hoplon, etc). This way without rebasing I can field armies for any ruleset.

Most ancient sets nowadays seem to go with the Armati/DBA standard. Impetus and Crusader adapt their rules to them. Yes, using your Crusader basing system would allow you to use a variety of rules. Other options would be individually (if 28mm) and work with Sabots.

For 25/28mm figures, DBx/Armati/FoG bases are 60mm wide and rectangular with varying depths, while Crusader bases are 40mm square for infantry and 50mm square for cavalry. Something of an awkward match, I would think.

Cheers,
Scott

Thanks for all the help. Crusader and Impetus are the two rules sets I'm most interested in. I'll give the 40mm bases a go and make some movement trays for larger units.

the 40mm approach has the added benefit of enabling you to field Impetus troops with both 80mm and 120mm frontage, which are the two standards. while 120mm is recommended for 28mm minis, 80mm makes it possible to play sizable battles, which is not really feasible with those 120mm monsters.

I use my own conventions- 80mm frontages and use my figures for DBA, Basic Impetus and a 28mm adaptation of Warmaster Ancients- 6cm was too narrow for me and 12cm just too big- but 8cm gives the right look for me- trying to convert the rest of the wargaming world to my standards is the hard part.

Craig

Crusader rules have a 40mm square base. Can I combine those to make an Impetus unit as well?

40mm squares will get you the Cursader/Foundry standard. It looks best for Crusader.

In short is 40mm square the best way to base ancients for multiple rules?

You could simply say that 3 stands are Impetus units or you could make 12cm wide bases for movement trays. Note that cavalry in Crusader are 50mm wide so you will only get 2 stands on the 12cm stand. It still should look good. If you go with movement trays, make them a little deeper so that you can lay the status counter on the unit instead of next to it.

Hope that made some sense.

John

don't know how important is the 5cm frontage of cavalry for Crusader, but for Impetus if you use a 10cm frontage unit for cavalry you shouldn't have big problems. Nothing that cannot be solved in case with a little of good sense.

Should you go to a tournament, then just add a single 2cm frontange mounted figs to add to each of your cavalry Units. This figure could also be used as a marker for Disorder/Opportunity status.

"Nothing that cannot be solved in case with a little of good sense."

That premise can only be applied to some game systems!

Allen

Allen,

I rather feel he was in reference to people, not game systems.

:-)

OK: That premise can only be applied to the players of *some* game systems!

Allen

in that case see para 2 of my post ;-)

Couldn't you singly base your foot on 20mm squares, then just combine them as necessary on a larger base for the different systems (which are all multiples of 20mm). That would also allow you to play skirmish games as well as figure removal games like WAB.
The cavalry will be a problem though. Crusader basing seems rather strange in that it has different frontages for infantry and cavalry. You're going to struggle to get a basing system that works with Crusader and any other system I think. Unless you can fit your cavalry on 20mm frontages also (20mm x 50mm maybe) then you can do the same as the infantry and temprarily attach them to larger bases for each different game.

for 28mm I sue 40x40 bases standard and then group two for Impetus (good combination of troops+frontage vs cost). cavalry move for 40x60 to 50x50 according to manufacturers. One thing I like of 40x40 is the ability to have to lines for heavy formed troops.

Arrigo