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AlanNZ09 Jun 2007 6:20 p.m. PST

Having just got back into the hobby after 20+ years, I have started to assemble a Montrose Scottish Army of the Civil War. Tartan certainly doesn't get easier to paint as you get older!
Anyway, I have two questions for members.
Firstly, the views on the merits of DBR as a rule set for ECW. I have looked through previous posts, but can't find many references to DBR.
Secondly where I am, there are not many Renaissance players, let alone ECW and the dominant rule set is DBR. Which I remember from when I used to game in the 80's. I quite like the look of the Warhammer ECW rules (I think they look a little more sympathetic to my highlanders) but wanted to know if anybody had any cunning ideas on how to base figures so I could play both sets of rules. No Warhammer ECW players at the moment but there are some DBR players I could get a game with.
I think it is 60mm frontage for DBR with 3 figures (for most troop types)
Any thought gratefully received.

eldogui09 Jun 2007 8:11 p.m. PST

WECW, like all historicals using warhammer, use 20x20mm bases for singles. There are exceptions of course, but three figures would make exactly a 60mm frontage.
You might want to have some singles for casualty removal.

If I recall correctly, the pics on the WECW book are of minis based in 40x40mm bases (four figures per base) and the author just marks the casualties with a ring or something until a whole base is taken away.

Just base for DBR. WECW is a lot more flexible.


Griefbringer09 Jun 2007 11:00 p.m. PST

Or base the models individually on 20x20mm steel bases (washers could do), and then make 60mm wide magnetic bases that you can stick the models to for use with DBR.


Dave Crowell10 Jun 2007 3:43 a.m. PST

I have used DBA based figures for WAB quite frequently, it works fine.

Base your figures for DBR and adjust your WECW game play slightly to accomodate this.

Pyruse11 Jun 2007 12:50 a.m. PST

My 20mm figures are all based on 40mm squares (4 foot, 3 mounted, or 2 dismounted dragoons plus standing horse).

This works fine for both sets of rules (and also Regiment of Foote and Warmaster ECW).
I quite like DBR for ECW, but I prefer condensed scale – for thwich the double ranked foot look better anyway.

AlanNZ11 Jun 2007 1:55 a.m. PST

Thanks everybody
I might try the DBR and route. That is base the Pikes for DBR (4 figures on 60mm frontage)and the shot on single 20 x 20 or the 40x40.
It has been so long since I've played DBR, but is the number of figures you use on the element important is it really just the size of the frontage of the element base?

Shardik11 Jun 2007 2:00 a.m. PST

The size of the base is the important thing in DBR. The number of figures can help to distinguish troop types, but if you clearly identify them to your opponent it shouldn't be a problem

Griefbringer13 Jun 2007 9:18 a.m. PST

Rules-wise, the number of models on a DBR base is totally irrelevant. You could even just use an empty base with text "pikes" or "skimishers" painted on it.


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