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The Wargames Room07 Mar 2010 10:57 a.m. PST

A very brief report of our latest 15mm DBR gaming can be found at the link below. Using small 110pt armies some 11 games were played in a very enjoyable format.

Dale Hurtt07 Mar 2010 1:51 p.m. PST

I have the DBR rules, but never played them (no opponents). Condensed scale sounds about right, however, so I might try to get a matched pair and convince some of the locals to try.

lkmjbc307 Mar 2010 5:30 p.m. PST

DBR condensed is great for Italian Wars.. The only change I make is double basing my pikes….. just for looks.

Joe Collins

The Wargames Room07 Mar 2010 9:40 p.m. PST

Dale, I would highly recommend giving condensed scale a try. DBR is a little more complex than DBA but has a number of rules that in my view add a lot to the games. For example the battles develop at a slightly more deliberate due to the PIP rules.

However, for our event we used fixed terrain and simplified weather to get the new players moving. Hope to hear how your games go. Feel free to leave a note on my website.

The Wargames Room07 Mar 2010 9:58 p.m. PST

Joe, those deep pike blocks would look good and are, I imagine, rather nasty in the Italian Wars.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2010 9:48 a.m. PST

Note that Condensed Scale does not refer to the number of figures, but to measurements The biggest difference between Normal and Condensed is the ground scale -- what does a pace equal.
25mm figs, 50 paces = 60mm for normal and 30mm for condensed
15mm figures, 50 paces = 40mm for normal and 20mm for condensed
for comparative purposes, a Light Horse moves 250 paces in good going, pikes move 100 paces.
Also some differences in use of multiple ranks.

There are three game sizes -- small, standard and large. Small games have 100-150 points. You can do a normal small game or a condensed small game. So lots of options in the game.

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