alexjones | 18 Feb 2012 7:50 a.m. PST |
If there is anyone still out there playing this classic set of rules, would you clear something up for me? Once an element has been neutralised, is it unable to move and fire for the remainder of the game or just for the next turn only?? |
Mobius | 18 Feb 2012 8:52 a.m. PST |
Next bound only. See page 25. |
alexjones | 18 Feb 2012 9:24 a.m. PST |
Can a neutralised element be KOed by any firing element? Not only the original firer which first neutralised it? (Which version of the rules do you have, I think they are different to mine ). |
Martin Rapier | 18 Feb 2012 10:33 a.m. PST |
I am pretty sure they all can. A hit neutralizes the target then you roll to destroy it. We always used to play it that way. |
Mobius | 18 Feb 2012 6:02 p.m. PST |
I have January 1975 and June 1977. But the 1977 is missing pages 23-26. Any unit can fire at another that it can acquire. |
cmdr kevin | 18 Feb 2012 10:31 p.m. PST |
Check out this site. Its online as a PDF. |
richinq | 19 Feb 2012 2:49 a.m. PST |
Here is a link for the pdf link |
alexjones | 19 Feb 2012 3:34 a.m. PST |
Is it this one?? PDF link So once a target is neutralised, other elements firing at it, in the same bound, need only roll once to attempt to knock it out? (They don't have to roll to attempt to neutralise first since the target has already been neutralised by another element that bound) I need to buy another copy, my copy seems incomplete also. |
Martin Rapier | 19 Feb 2012 1:53 p.m. PST |
"So once a target is neutralised, other elements firing at it, in the same bound, need only roll once to attempt to knock it out? (They don't have to roll to attempt to neutralise first since the target has already been neutralised by another element that bound)" No, each element has to hit a.k.a. 'neutralise' the target first before it rolls to destroy it, they dont get a free kill roll against an already neutralised target. One thing to note is that neutralised targets are no longer movng nor firing so next turn you may well not be able to see them
I always rather liked the way infantry firefights waxed and waned as units disappeared from view. |
alexjones | 20 Feb 2012 12:46 p.m. PST |
Thanks Martin. Do you mind if I ask which WW2 rules you use? I am sure I have seen your name in relation to Crossfire as well |
Mobius | 20 Feb 2012 1:35 p.m. PST |
One thing to note is that neutralised targets are no longer movng nor firing so next turn you may well not be able to see them Well, they may not be moving the current turn. The rules say that they can be neutralized along their path of movement so any thing firing at them after they are neutralized must do so as if they are not moving. This sort of gets into the time traveler's paradox. If to try to ko them another friendly unit fires at the neutralized unit before it gets to the spot the first firer neutralized then doesn't ko them, they never reach the point that they were neutralized. |
stenicplus | 21 Feb 2012 1:16 p.m. PST |
I have a copy of the June 1973 version of Armour & Infantry with playsheet (and indeed a 1982 pricelist and WRG leaflet). Available for to a good home for postage and a couple of beers
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Sir Samuel Vimes | 26 Jun 2012 11:44 a.m. PST |
Sadly, the links seem to be dead. Anyone have another source foe download. Would that I still had my copy from 25 years ago. |
Sparker | 30 Jun 2012 4:22 p.m. PST |
Good god this thread is a blast from the past! A great set of rules, once you got the whole 'modes' thing weighed off
unfortunately adherents around here are rarer than hen's teeth! |
stenicplus | 05 Jul 2012 1:55 p.m. PST |
Sir Samuel Vimes, as mentioned, I have a copy. It is available to a good home. I'd be grateful for the postage, 'the beers' aren't compulsory. |
deephorse | 05 Jul 2012 5:30 p.m. PST |
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spontoon | 22 Jul 2012 8:44 a.m. PST |
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BillyNM | 19 Jan 2021 11:29 a.m. PST |
Be nice if they could spell battalion. |