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Wargames Rules for All-Arms Land Warfare from Platoon to Batallion Level 1925-1950 and 1950-2000

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Mako1118 Jul 2016 5:59 p.m. PST

This set of rules was published in 1979, so a lot of the late Cold War armor is missing. Some others are listed, but not under the usual names we now use.

So, just curious to know if any of you have come up with stats for vehicles not listed in the game, e.g. some of the following:

T-10M
T-64A
T-64B
T-72 upgrade models
T-80U

Chieftain Stillbrew
UK MBT80 is no doubt the Challenger 1
UK MICV is the Warrior

Leo 3 is presumably the Leo 2A5 or 2A6 (could be the 2A4 though as well, I guess.

Will probably go with Class VI "s" armor for the Leo 1A1 1A3 (not sure on the Leo 1A2 though).

Also, not sure on the Leo 1A5.

For the Jaguar 1 and 2, plan on using Class V "s", since they were based on the JgPz Kanone hulls and then had bolt-on armor added.

XM-1 can be the M1 obviously, and just use the 120mm for the later M1 marks.

Perhaps a Class XI and/or Class XII armor for the really late stuff, with heavy armor upgrade, especially Soviet/Russian ERA, which seems to be pretty impervious to frontal hits. Same goes for the later M1 Abrahms models. Another way to go would be just to give +3, +4, etc. to their base armor ratings instead.

Then, of course, we need to add in some of the late Cold War anti-tank cannon rounds, which can cut through armor like melted butter, to compensate for the above.

Anyone else got some ideas to share, and/or other house rules/stats for these?

Trierarch19 Jul 2016 6:47 p.m. PST

Hi Mako

I believe some folks are using the armour stats and weapon penetration stata from the next edition (1950-2000, pub 1993) to cover the kit better.

Back in the day we used the Army Lists from Bruce Rea-Taylor to fill in the gaps (not that they had much data to work with at the time either).

Cheers
David

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