|photocrinch||14 Feb 2011 11:56 a.m. PST|
I was at our local hobby shop and they have a whole bunch of old Essex DBA and DBR armies, but they are numbered anywhere from 1 – 225. I assume the DBA and DBR initial realeases did not separate the armies into books, but had them in one long list. Is there a listing somewhere? In particular I am looking for Polish armies in the DBR lists that would include those glorious winged hussars. It would be a great help if anyone could point me to a source that lists the army and their numbers for the whole list in DBA 1.1, and I assume DBR 1.1.
|religon||14 Feb 2011 12:15 p.m. PST|
|Guinny||14 Feb 2011 12:23 p.m. PST|
I'm not sure, but I thought DBA 1.1 had the lists broken down into the four groups?
If so, hopefully this is what you:
I'd imagine that the Polish list you're after is IV/66 – Later Polish (1335AD – 1510AD)
|elsyrsyn||14 Feb 2011 12:30 p.m. PST|
Well, the original 1990 DBA had just one set of numbered lists – the link Religon posted has it spot on.
I don't have 1.1, but it came out in 1995, which is two years after DBM came out in 1993, so it might have had the book/list format for lists (the 4 books first came out in 1993 and 1994).
|photocrinch||14 Feb 2011 12:30 p.m. PST|
Thanks religon, Very useful link. I have what I need for DBA 1.1 now, but the DBR list remains ellusive
As for the poles, I am looking for the DBR Poles, which I think are 205, but I wondered if there was an earlier list as well. The 205 packs do not have any winged hussars packaged with them.
|religon||14 Feb 2011 12:40 p.m. PST|
I could also use a codex of old DBR Essex product numbering.
|Who asked this joker||14 Feb 2011 12:57 p.m. PST|
DBA 1-1.2 had 1 set of lists. Something like 180 total. DBAOL is based on v1.2 here. dbaol.com/armies.htm
Version 2 of DBA used the same list organization of DBM. So there were books I-IV.
|Allen57||14 Feb 2011 3:40 p.m. PST|
Try contacting the Fanaticus DBA group. They may be of help.
|The Wargames Room||14 Feb 2011 10:35 p.m. PST|
DBA & DBM are Ancient & Medieval rules that cover the period up until 1494AD or so.
DBR covers the period from 1494AD to 1700AD. It is this later period that has the traditional Winged Hussars in all their glory.
Reviewing the Ospreys of the Renaissance Polish armies it suggests the full Winged Hussar came in the 1600s. Prior to that some Hussars existed but they supported rather the existing Polish knights rather than formed the heavy cavalry. These earlier figures may not be the figures you are looking for.
DBR has Polish armies acorss a couple of periods. The more common ones are from the DBR Army list Book 2/7 (1576-1631AD) and a later list in Book 3/46 (1632-1700AD).
|photocrinch||15 Feb 2011 6:06 p.m. PST|
So I realized that there were actually two sets in the bin. The DBR armies are all book 1 armies and thanks to you all and the folks on Fanaticus I now have them labeled appropriately. There is also another set that is not DBR but appears to be Renaissance era as well. A few of them are labeled with the army type. Numbers range from 200-225. Here are the sets I know:
217 Bishop Wars
Anybody have any idea what list or rule set these are from so that I might be able to figure out what the other armies are?
|religon||15 Feb 2011 9:05 p.m. PST|
Is it possible they are Essex Read Made Armies (RMA)?
I have never owned one, but they appear to be 50% larger than a DBA army and composed as Essex feels appropriate. They may not be associated with a set of rules.
|photocrinch||16 Feb 2011 6:27 a.m. PST|
Fanaticus comes through again. I thought I had checked this but apparently I mis-read or something, but they are book 2 armies for DBR, with 205 standing for book 2 army 5 etc. Thanks for the help.