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Desert Fox Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2014 11:21 a.m. PST

In reading past TMP posts regarding Phil Barker's Horse, Foot, Guns ruleset many posters commented how HFG has grown in complexity as it has matured with each rewrite.

I am looking for an older, less complex edition of HFG. A version that is more DBA than DBMM.


GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Mar 2014 1:52 p.m. PST

I don't think any version of HFG resembled DBA more than DBM (never seen DBMM so can't say on that score) – all those I have seen were at the same level of complexity as DBM or more so.

When played in a speific period though a lot of the complexity can go away as you are dealing with a limited set of troop types. The best way to work that is to create your own QRS with only the types in your games – you will find that it gets a LOT easier to use that way.

Khusrau21 Mar 2014 11:07 p.m. PST

Agree with GildasFacit. The overall set appears to be complex, but in each period you only need a subset of the types, interactions and combat results.

Ideally, it should be broken down into period sub-sets. Each in it's own little booklet. Slightly more complex than DBA, nothing like as complex as DBMM.

That's what I intend to do.

matthewgreen23 Mar 2014 5:31 a.m. PST

I have a version dated 2005. I stripped it down to a Napoleonic land army version, and produced a QR. Still not DBA (can't comment on DBMM) but actually quite entertaining.

I don't think this forum allows a DM but by all means email me on to find out more.


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