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Whirlwind28 Nov 2015 5:25 a.m. PST

I notice that after years and years of the latest version of Horse, Foor & Guns being available on his website it is no longer there. Does anyone know if this indicates a release date in the near future? Or that it was released and I missed it?

mashrewba28 Nov 2015 5:33 a.m. PST

Hard back special edition with lots of eye candy and a nice font.
Mind you DBA was hardback.
Lets hope so after all this time -I think it's a good set

YogiBearMinis28 Nov 2015 7:01 a.m. PST

I have not followed its development in a long time--does anyone know whether it has changed much in the last year or three, or is it still basically the same set as a few years ago?

Tony S28 Nov 2015 8:41 a.m. PST

I heard Barker had walked away from it but a group of playtesters were continuing development?

Or not…might have been just a bitter rumour.

The version we tried a dozen or so times for the SYW and Napoleonics wasn't terribly good, in my humble opinion. I think he tried to bite off more than he could chew. A ruleset at the army level, for the entire world, from the introduction of the flintlock up to WWI?

Shame. We really were hoping it would work.

I think his planned expansions, being more focused on smaller historical periods and at a lower scale, would have been much more successful.

Who asked this joker28 Nov 2015 9:36 a.m. PST

Not sure why you wouldn't just use the DBA-HX (?) extensions. While I've not tried them yet, by most accounts, they give a pretty good game.

Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2015 11:12 a.m. PST

DBA-HX has been revised to use 3.0 which brings some interesting features.

You can find the file at the Fanaticus Resource page.



Whirlwind28 Nov 2015 11:54 a.m. PST

Not sure why you wouldn't just use the DBA-HX (?) extensions. While I've not tried them yet, by most accounts, they give a pretty good game.

I am still using the HFG rules which used to be posted on the site. I had just wondered if their removal indicated anything.

MajorB28 Nov 2015 1:59 p.m. PST

I am still using the HFG rules which used to be posted on the site. I had just wondered if their removal indicated anything.

Presumbaly it means that Phil is not interested in developing them any more.

Buff Orpington28 Nov 2015 2:13 p.m. PST

Phil has just turned 83, how much work do you want him to put in?

evilgong28 Nov 2015 3:42 p.m. PST

I thought it was going to print after PB does his DBMM lists tidy up.

And that he has play-testers doing the three sub-sets to HFG. These sub-sets could be interesting.


Khusrau29 Nov 2015 3:57 p.m. PST

Yep, what evilgong (hi DB) has said. The work to update DBMM to 2.1 is completed, and it's now awaiting printing, (there have been some delays). Phil has said he would be turning his attention to HFG after DBMM, so I assume he is polishing/re-working in preparation for publication.

The sub-sets should prove to be very interesting.

Whirlwind22 Jan 2016 3:54 p.m. PST

I notice that Phil Barker mentioned a few days go on the Yahoo group that he was intending to publish Horse, Foot and Guns on Lulu in a couple of months.

Early morning writer22 Jan 2016 10:07 p.m. PST

Well, this is disappointing. I was thinking someone had painted some Barkeresque units – with tongue firmly in cheek. And all I get is blather about his rules. Pity. Moving on.

Father Grigori23 Jan 2016 6:38 p.m. PST

I've given up on waiting for them to be published officially, and I'm just using a download set. It's a shame, because I really quite like them for C18th and C19th games. They're about the only set I know that give the Swedes any chance at Poltava (The sheer numbers of Russians mean they'll crush the Swedes in most sets) and give a nice feel for those really big Napoleonic battles. Once I have my early C18th stuff painted up, I'm looking at using them for the German wars of Unification. I'm already looking at the naval side to start with. It would be nice to see them in print, but, such is life…

Guthroth24 Jan 2016 7:12 a.m. PST

I've played a game with someone 'involved' and I like them as well. Once they are available in a final evolution my Marlburians are destined for a complete re-work.

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