maverick2909 | 12 Sep 2015 10:05 a.m. PST |
So we are playing a game right now. I have artillery (f) shooting at his Knights (s). I checked the rules and it says knights are +3 vs foot and +4 vs bow shooting. He is contending that my artillery counts as bow and using the +4, I think it doesn't and he should only be +3, can anyone help on this? Thanks! |
Bobgnar | 12 Sep 2015 10:22 a.m. PST |
What game is this with rules that say that artillery counts as bows when shooting at knights??? I would require the Knight player to show the rule. If it cannot be found then I suggest that it does not exist. |
maverick2909 | 12 Sep 2015 10:24 a.m. PST |
We are playing DBM version 3.2. I don't see anywhere that it shows they count as bow. |
Wretched Peasant Scum | 12 Sep 2015 1:24 p.m. PST |
Artillery are defined as Foot under troop definitions (pg.4). So Knights are +3 when being shot at by Artillery. |
williamb | 12 Sep 2015 4:57 p.m. PST |
Both artillery and bow are separate classes of foot. They are not both "bow". In this case bow have a different modifier than other foot. |
maverick2909 | 12 Sep 2015 8:51 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the responses guys. I was able to illustrate to him the difference by showing how it had blades listed as a +4 vs shooting but others have a modifier to specifically "bow shooting", thus the dostinction mattered. |
aynsley683 | 13 Sep 2015 3:55 a.m. PST |
Did the art(f) kill the Kh in the end? |
maverick2909 | 14 Sep 2015 7:28 a.m. PST |
Negative. Sadly the artillery didn't get a kill. I'm starting to think they aren't worth the points cost. However all was not lost, for I thought my blade we're doomed the moment he hit my line, however thanks to some skillful rolling on my part the Legionaries made quick work of the chariots! |
Thomas Thomas | 14 Sep 2015 12:18 p.m. PST |
DBM 3.2 was created by DBM players and may have some odd moments. Its +4 v. shooting in DBA 3.0. Not "bow shooting". TomT |
maverick2909 | 14 Sep 2015 1:05 p.m. PST |
Sure, but that text has been there since DBM 3.0 in that same form, so I don't think you can chalk it up to fan fiction. I believe that if we were to make those "all shooting" it would significantly devalue artillery, which in my personal experience is already a bad choice (aside from your opponent fielding elephants). |
aynsley683 | 15 Sep 2015 4:39 a.m. PST |
Maverick one assumes your blade were double ranked as then the Knights don't quick kill Bd.? I've found art. great for shooting at Bw ( 4v2 ), driving away Lh and for breaking up lines heading towards you. Unless you are lucky enough to be able to shoot at elephants. |
maverick2909 | 15 Sep 2015 3:23 p.m. PST |
Negative. I had to single depth them as he had a lot of stands to his army and I feared he would have been able to surround me if I didn't. He only had 5-6 stands of chariots so it wasn't too bad. I just got some lucky rolls! |