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lou cardinale10 Apr 2013 5:30 a.m. PST

Our group wants to try refighting the Battle of Chalons, using DBMM. Does anyone have an OOB for this battle?

Lou

Porkmann10 Apr 2013 5:43 a.m. PST

I reckon any OOB is speculative.
link
Shows a refight, why not contact these fellas and see what they used?

stenicplus10 Apr 2013 5:46 a.m. PST

Cutting it fine if this is your plan…

soa.org.uk/battleday

Hang around though and there will likely be some reports in the coming weeks that might help.

Meantime google says:

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Keraunos10 Apr 2013 6:41 a.m. PST

Join the society of ancients

soa.org.uk

The members magazine will feature accounts and reports from at least 15 games and at least a dozen rule sets after this wekends games.

Mapleleaf10 Apr 2013 7:30 a.m. PST

which battle 274 0r 451?

kustenjaeger10 Apr 2013 8:44 a.m. PST

Greetings

The OOB for Chalons using Comitatus (with a reference to the paucity of sources) is at link

Regards

Edward

lou cardinale10 Apr 2013 7:05 p.m. PST

Edward, this is exactly what I was looking for, so thanks again.

Lou

LorenzoMele10 Apr 2013 7:23 p.m. PST

As Edward said, with such a poor sources a detailed OOB is just an educated guess.
Neverless the battle is fantastic for team play.
Lorenzo


tagmata.it

Who asked this joker11 Apr 2013 9:09 a.m. PST

Lou,

If you have an idea of what each army is supposed to look like, then I would suggest 1 Hunnic army in the center, with the Ostrogoths and Lombards on either flank for the invaders.

For the Allied defenders, I would suggest Patrician Romans on the left, a combination of Franks and Alans in the center and Visigoths on the right. Equal proportions work fine. You can use DBA armies as a template. Hunnic options should probably have some infantry in the center with them, perhaps from a client state.

John

lou cardinale13 May 2013 12:29 p.m. PST

Guys, last week we did the refight of Chalons, using an OOB that TAGMATA had on their site. The Hunnic coalition, composed of the Ostrogoths on the left, Huns in the center and the Gepids on the right. The Roman Coalition had the Visigoths on the right, Alans in the center and the Romans on the left. The Romans also had the advantage of a large gentley sloped hill, directly in front of their deployment.

The Ostrogoths and visigoths, true to form, slammed into one another and both divisions were DISHEARTENED, and both were close to becoming DEMORALIZED. The Huns were getting the better of the Alans, but it was taking quite a number of turns to do so.

I commanded the Gepids, which were deployed to the right of the Huns and I was opposite the Romans on the hill. I advanced on turn one, with both my Kn(F) and Wb(O).

Unfortunately, on turns 2,3 and 4, I rolled a "1" for PiP's and was not able to hold back my IMPETUOUS troops and both the Wb(O) and Kn(F) went surging up the hill at the Romans.

The result was a slaughter, as my command broke by turn 6 and it was ugly……

Eventually, the Hunnic Coalition decided to quit the field and fight another day.

This battle is a very interesting one and can go quite differently then the way our battle did. I like the way DBMM represents IMPETUOUS troops a lot, as you can lose control at the worst moment in the battle.

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