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De Bellis Antiquitatis (DBA)

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religon14 Sep 2011 5:26 a.m. PST

As it seems dirty pool, do you have regrets?

John Leahy Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2011 5:47 a.m. PST

I have been the victim and despise it. It's why I rarely play any DBA anymore.

Thanks,

John

streetline14 Sep 2011 5:48 a.m. PST

Yes, and no.

And as I demonstrated at the Berkeley Hordes tournement, if you have two elements with smallish base depths in front and side contact with your own element; it's possible to place a single element in the angle with a corner behind both to kill them both if they recoil. More cheese than you dreamed possible.

Sysiphus14 Sep 2011 6:02 a.m. PST

I most rules sets when your unit/element/figure is surrounded play ends. Enemy to your rear is not a good thing. And, yes.

Twilight Samurai14 Sep 2011 6:03 a.m. PST

In 2.2, recoiling an enemy element into the rear edge of one of your elements results in mutual destruction. A pointless exercise, I would've thought, in most cases.

Tucking elements partially behind others to avoid contact or gain time is more annoying.

stenicplus14 Sep 2011 6:13 a.m. PST

Rude not to in HOTT against an experienced player, and rude to do so against an inexperienced player.

Martin Rapier14 Sep 2011 6:17 a.m. PST

What else are flying units for in HoTT?

Destroying enemy units by surrounding them is pretty standard tactics if you can pull it off.

Personal logo gaiusrabirius Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2011 6:23 a.m. PST

Please, can someone direct me to an online diagram for this tactic? Thank you.

Twilight Samurai14 Sep 2011 6:27 a.m. PST

As for other forms of blocking recoil, if you can manage to out maneuver your opponent to that extent then I have little sympathy.

paulkit14 Sep 2011 6:31 a.m. PST

No on line diagram, but an excellent explanation

link

Derek H14 Sep 2011 6:39 a.m. PST

I've seen it done on the rugby pitch. Not a pretty sight.

Historicalgamer14 Sep 2011 7:25 a.m. PST

One of our club members is known for this.
Usually after he eats sauerkraut.

Terrement14 Sep 2011 7:25 a.m. PST

It seems to me to be an ability to game the rules and not the battle. Like someone else said, one (of the several) reasons i prefer other games.

JJ

streetline14 Sep 2011 7:55 a.m. PST

Fighting to the front and flank or front and rear will see you die nine times out of ten in any system. It's more extreme in DBx games but they're fast play < one hour games. Everything is more extreme in dbx games.

religon14 Sep 2011 8:04 a.m. PST

Usually after he eats sauerkraut.

Dirty pool.

Dale Hurtt14 Sep 2011 8:52 a.m. PST

It is not dirty pool (the original topic, not the sauerkraut related topic), and yes I have used it with no regrets. Got a 4-3 win, even with the mutual destruction.

Dale

Cincinnatus14 Sep 2011 11:12 a.m. PST

It's probably worth separating the BoD from the (IMO) very valid tactic of getting a unit behind the target to prevent them from recoiling.

evilgong14 Sep 2011 6:07 p.m. PST

It can look a bit strange, but I take the view that an element base is best looked at as an "area of influence' for troops, and that within the 'area of influence' the troops are doing wahtever it takes to protect themselves or harm the enemy.

So I assume that some, but not all, troops from the buttocking element are actually turned and fighting the recoiling element, hunting down officers and whatever to cause maximum panic in the recoiler.

db

Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2011 7:43 p.m. PST

Usually the game is about over when you get an enemy on your rear.

Khusrau15 Sep 2011 6:42 a.m. PST

I have used it when my opponent deserved it ;-)

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2011 8:01 a.m. PST

"Buttocks of death."

No but it has to be one of all time great wargaming terms.

Who asked this joker15 Sep 2011 2:32 p.m. PST

Yes. But what I do in the privacy of my own home is my business!

Oh. You mean DBA! Um. I have but only when they were reaching into their own bag of tricks.

Mechanical19 Sep 2011 6:16 a.m. PST

Not used or been subject to it. It seems more than a little ungentlemanly.

John GrahamLeigh30 Sep 2011 8:25 a.m. PST

My playing partner used it in DBM against Richard Bodley Scott, with a demoralised element blocking a pursuer's recoil. RBS was not amused.

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