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hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2014 8:20 p.m. PST

I was thinking about doing a III/14c Early Bulgar DBA army, and as usual was looking at the equivalent DBM / DBMM books to get more information on the troop types represented.

So, there seems to be a discrepancy here. Can anyone provide insight as to why the DBMM III/14 Early Bulgar list has the Cv changed to Kn (F) after 803AD (when my man Nicephorus I was disputing with them)? The DBA 2.2 III/14c list still has them as Cv, which has been the traditional interpretation.

Of course we can do anything we want, but what's the community's view on this?

Mark

goragrad27 Feb 2014 11:20 p.m. PST

Not having been in on the change, my presumption would be that someone uncovered evidence that the Bulgar CV started charging home.

DBMM lists came out several years later than DBA 2.2 (2.2 was 2004 and Book 3 DBMM list in 2007).

I presume the DBA 3.0 lists will be more in accord with the DBMM.

timurilank28 Feb 2014 12:50 a.m. PST

The change may reflect the feudal system adapted by the Bulgars; the rise of the Boyar class or Knights (F).

GurKhan28 Feb 2014 6:32 a.m. PST

Have a look at link and in the archives of link

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2014 9:18 a.m. PST

OK, I looked at GurKhan's first link, and applied for membership in the second.

After looking further at DBA 2.2+ and DBMM 2nd edition, I see that Cv and Kn differ between the 2 rule sets. Perhaps that explains the difference in the respective lists, rather than chronological factors.

Mark

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