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darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2011 4:15 p.m. PST

With all the new and/or exciting options for ancient battles on the horizon, I'm wondering if anyone knows the intended standard table size for Clash of Empires?

I was just reading that Hail Caesar is geared for 12'-14' by 6' tables. While impressive, I can't afford a house just to stage those battles (crazy SoCal prices!). I'm hoping Clash of Empires is geared toward something other than playing one game a year at conventions.

Any definitive answer?

Caesar10 Apr 2011 4:48 p.m. PST

Their other game -- Rules of Engagement -- is geared toward 6x4 foot tables.

Scutatus10 Apr 2011 6:01 p.m. PST

As Caesar suggests, I believe 6 x 4. Apparently, CoE can handle larger games and convention epics if need be, but is designed primarily for an evening's gaming in the back room.

In that regard, Hail Caesar and CoE are taking rather different approaches.

darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2011 7:46 p.m. PST

I'm not familiar with ROE so that could be a reasonable assumption.

While I love the fantasy of playing on 14' table with thousands of minis (1:20 ratio? really?), reality says 'aim lower' if I really want to get minis on the table. :)

bruntonboy11 Apr 2011 5:37 a.m. PST

Well if HC is as adaptable as Black Powder is than playing on realistic sized tables will be fine- we play on 6 x 4 with no problems just adjust the distances by 2/3 or 1/2.

Lovejoy11 Apr 2011 5:48 a.m. PST

Rick Priestley says HC will work fine with a 6 x 4 table… just as well, as that's what I've got!

Bear in mind that the movement rates in HC are shorter than in Warmaster Ancients, and that was fine on a 6 x 4.

So don't assume having a smaller table means you should buy Clash of Empires instead – I know my money's going on Hail Caesar… but I'll probably still buy CoE as well though…. :)

Stuart at Great Escape Games Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Apr 2011 6:58 a.m. PST

Clash of Empires is mainly played on 6 x 4 tables, though we often scale up to 8 x 4 or 8 x 6. All of the scenarios are set to this table size, and the army lists are geared towards armies that would be played on these sizes.

We are even planning a 24 x 8 game in the summer!

darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2011 7:35 a.m. PST

Thanks, Stuart, that's helpful.

Well if HC is as adaptable as Black Powder is than playing on realistic sized tables will be fine- we play on 6 x 4 with no problems just adjust the distances by 2/3 or 1/2.

Well, yes, most games can be scaled up or down, but there's generally something 'lost in translation'. Scaling down the table size by half means scaling down distances by half and scaling down basing by half. Some games don't have the same feel once you do that, especially when the designer's intent is really big (convention) games.

Who asked this joker18 Apr 2011 10:36 a.m. PST

What others said about cutting in half. In fact, don't think too hard about it. 6X4, half sized bases and use CM in place of inches.

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