"Clash of Empires Demo Day." Topic

On Saturday 8th October at the Midlands Wargames Centre we have Tim Haslam (featured in this months Wargames Illustrated) paying us a visit to run demo games of Clash of Empires.

CoE seems to be the natural successor to Warhammer Ancient Battles and the first supplement, The Rise and Fall of Persia, is due out in November.

Tim will run us through a game and we will then set up a number of games, so bring your army with you, and Tim will be available to answer any queries that may arise.

Details of the Midlands Wargames centre can be found here
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Picked it up at Derby today for £15.00 GBP rather than £25.00 GBP

After a quick read on the train I'm not too sure how much it isn't WHAB but playing it will tall me.

Nice to see the army lists freely available as downloads. Good Practice. You can certainly stick that up your WAB and give your FoG something to chew over.

Thanks to all those who turned up and made our first CoE Day a very enjoyable day.

There were three games of CoE with Tim floating between games umpiring and Justin who just wanted to watch and learn.

So is CoE better than WAB?

I think the general concencus of opinion is no, they both have their pros and cons and if WAB had been supported then there would have been no need for us to be learning a new rules system.

But WAB isn't supported and it looks like CoE will be so it looks like that is the way forward but time will tell.

There are a lot of issues that need ironing out with CoE but that will be the subject of another thread.

Have a look at Justin's blog for his report on the day
3vwargames.blogspot.com

We will run another CoE day in a couple of months if anyone is interested, please let me know.

So the natural question, I suppose, is why do you need WAB to be "supported"? The rules are fine. I play V1.5 and really have no complaints. There are a number of supporting books floating around, but any wargamer with more than 2 brain cells can take and develop any other stat lines needed based upon the many examples given in the rules book as well as the other army books.

I find it incredibly disheartening that so many wargamers are dependent upon the idea that they can't play a game system without someone else providing them everything they might want to know.

In years past a company or even individual would publish a set of rules and put them up for sale. You took them and ran with them. If you needed specific units or armies not covered then you took what data was provided, and, based upon your own research, extrapolated what you needed, what YOU thought best represented the troops you wanted to play.

I just don't get it. Maybe I'm just too old, but it seems that folks simply wait around for someone else to do things, then complain when they don't get what they want.

Just put in the effort yourself. Do the research yourself. It isn't that hard and you'll have the satisfaction of actually playing games instead of sitting around and complaining.

I and I would imagine a lot of others barely get time to play these days never mind painting new figures so I certainly don't have time for researching and writing army lists.

I like to play the occasional tournament because I get to play other players and armies, this is where the official published army lists are essential.