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Personal logo D6 Junkie Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2016 6:11 p.m. PST

Played Magnesia last year, but we've been aching for a rematch. Saturday finally saw it happen.
Clash of Empires rules 4000 points per side.
Still enjoying the rules, they really give all the different unit types flavor. Just need to play more often so that we'll have the rules down pat.
A few pics




Cataphracts, that failed to do anything after I spent all week painting them


Stelios in shock that he had to play Romans.

vdal181222 Feb 2016 7:07 p.m. PST

Great looking game!

Mars Ultor22 Feb 2016 7:23 p.m. PST

'Twas great fun! Seleucids are a great opponent! We're extending this consuls rule to proconsular governor to try to finish the job.


Temporary like Achilles23 Feb 2016 4:45 a.m. PST

That's a nice looking battle! Love those angled lines and the troops in depth. Beautiful stuff. Would the rules work for 15mm DBx basing, do you think?


Old Guy23 Feb 2016 5:32 a.m. PST

Now that's a wargame, must have been a joy to fight.

TMPWargamerabbit23 Feb 2016 9:35 a.m. PST

Viva la COE!… Viva d6J…

Also the miniatures and tabletop look superb. Players look the part and into the action it seems. Stern faced… I just killed something… give me dice….

WR aka fellow COE player who doesn't play the "bow to Caesar" variant…

Mars Ultor23 Feb 2016 11:26 a.m. PST

Temporary: I don't have the book with me ATM, however, I know that it's also designed for 15mm and to cover as broad spectrum of basing as possible to try to make it easy for players from other systems. If you'll tell me the mm size for DBA then I can look it up. They are nice rules.

WGRabbit, I've not tried HC but I've just gotten CoE to go pretty smoothly, so I'm not keen to try other systems at this time. If you ever find yourself in the Atlanta area do contact us! Until then we'll continue to post. Trying to get a big game about every other month, as there are so many competing interests. But we'll continue to post.


Emperorbaz23 Feb 2016 12:00 p.m. PST

Great looking minis!

TMPWargamerabbit23 Feb 2016 12:23 p.m. PST

The COE rules have 15mm basing outlined but comparison to DBx basing I couldn't tell you since never played DBx games. I have attached a scan of the COE basing page. Please note skirmishing and open order infantry can be based on 20mm x 20mm basing, like my armies, and the rules tell you how to reflect the different basing of 25mm x 25mm vs. 20mm x 20mm miniaturing basing and positioning on the tabletop.

COE Basing .pdf: PDF link

M aka WR

P.S. Inside joke…. "bow to Caesar" for good luck. Players properly bow to the "Hail Caesar" book cover otherwise the gods of Caesar will torment you and your dice rolls. If you play other rules…. Caesar knows!

Mithridates23 Feb 2016 3:06 p.m. PST

Thanks for the report – both armies looked very good. A draw against the Romans is a good result!

Shame those cataphracts did not do well.

Johnp400024 Feb 2016 4:35 a.m. PST

Excellent report,I envy you, I really miss playing in those size games!Does COE work well in big battles?

Mars Ultor24 Feb 2016 3:01 p.m. PST

Johnp4000, yes CoE works works well for big battles. Our battle above was 6500 points, but I've done battles about half that size that work well. The Heraclea battle (also on Mike's blog) was about 9K points and very big. 4000 is a nice number in CoE. If you know anything about it's parent ruleset (WAB) the units typically cost about 20% more than in WAB.

Johnp400025 Feb 2016 4:13 a.m. PST

Thanks Mars, I am a long time WAB player, but have decided to try something different,haven't been able to decide between War and Conquest and COE. Both seem to have good ideas and enough subtle differences to make them different to WAB.

Temporary like Achilles25 Feb 2016 6:05 a.m. PST

Many thanks for the basing info, chaps. Especially kind of you to post the pdf, Wargamerabbit. Cheers!

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