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DColtman02 Sep 2006 6:53 a.m. PST

I have a copy of Armati and quite like it after trying it once, the rules are refreshingly clear and it feels realistic. Is it worth it to find the Advanced rule set or to buy Armati 2?

CATenWolde02 Sep 2006 7:03 a.m. PST

I've been wondering the same thing! What are the salient points of the various following editions?

DColtman02 Sep 2006 7:42 a.m. PST

Christopher, are you doing it in 10mm? I've got 10s on 30x60s based for Vis Bellica that look and feel great for this system.

CATenWolde02 Sep 2006 9:18 a.m. PST

Is my secret out? ;)

Yep, I recently started playing Shako again, and then thought "hey, I like Tactica, what about Armati?" while I was in a Conliffe state of mind. I still haven't found a system I'm 100% on for my often-stalled Late Roman project, although Vis Bellica has come the closest. If I actually decided on a rule set it might help me focus.

Just to be clear, are you playing Vis Bellica, or playing Armati with VB units?



DColtman02 Sep 2006 10:12 a.m. PST

Christopher, we've tried both VB and Armati with the VB basing and today I like Armati better because it is less ambiguous, well-written and plays cleanly.


RobH02 Sep 2006 2:29 p.m. PST

Advanced Armati gives you a different approach to army lists (more flexibility) and introduces campaign rules. There are some minor rule changes to cover the ECW and 30yrs War period.

The book is certainly worth picking up as you already have the base ruleset.

As for Armati 2; if you are interested in tournaments (or if you were looking to buy your first book) it is necessary. However if it is just for yourself/friends I do not think the rule changes add very much to the game.

You may also want to check out the warflute website which has a load of information on the rulesets and loads of variant army lists.

DColtman02 Sep 2006 2:58 p.m. PST

PaintCowboy thanks for that. Warflute is really helpful too.


coopman02 Sep 2006 4:50 p.m. PST

Armati 2 does not cover Renaissance forces like the original Armati though, from what I understand. There is a ren. supplement in the works, I think.

Personal logo Condottiere Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2006 6:38 p.m. PST

While it is true that Armati 2 only covers up to the introduction of gunpowder on the battlefield, I have found that it is quite useful for battles of the "Italian Wars" for instance, with the simple introduction (or reintroduction) of gunpowder rules from the original Armati (and Advanced Armati). I prefer A2 because it straightens out some errors or perceived problems with the original Armati and it is more clearly written.

Armati renaissance is slated (as far as I understand it) for release sometime around "Fall In" game convention in November of this year. It is being playtested and sometimes the finer points vigorously debated on the Armati Renaissance Yahoo list:

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