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Brummie Lad17 Oct 2010 10:57 p.m. PST

I was reading through the latest edition of Wargames Illustrated and was inspired by the images of the Sumerian army contained within it's pages. So much so, I went out and bought some of Hat's 1:72 Sumerian infantry.
I have the DBA rules which contains the lists for various Sumerian and Akkadian armies, but I am more of an Armati player, and these rules don't have an army list available for these armies.
My questions:
1. Does anyone know of a list that is available on the net?
2. How would I go about creating my own army list? (I know I could use the DBA list as a basis, but Armati armies are larger than 12 elements, so how would I determine which units to use to fill it out?)

Many thanks, grin


MajorB18 Oct 2010 12:33 a.m. PST

How about taking the proportions of the various troop types in the DBA army and extrapolating them to make a bigger Armati army? Should be fairly straightforward to do that.

For example taking the DBA list I/1b – Early Sumerian (2799-2500 BC):

8% Heavy Chariots
50 – 66% Spear phalanx
0 – 17% Spearmen or Kish household axemen
25% Levies (settled and/or nomadic) with slings, javelins and/or bows.

Keraunos18 Oct 2010 1:54 a.m. PST

the Warflute project created a vast number of new lists for Armati.

Its been 'resurected' her in a raw (i.e. not user friendly) form

There is a list in the Armati 2 rule book as well, I thought.

But as a basic rule.

start with an existing one:


and then mix and match with any bits you want to see from another rule set, so the approximate points values you add inare replaced by roughly the same number you take out.

Tarleton18 Oct 2010 5:48 a.m. PST

If you can fathom out how to work out the various factors for Armati lists… WELL DONE. The method seemed to be held very close to someones chest and they were loath to tell!

Keraunos18 Oct 2010 6:24 a.m. PST

its not so difficult.

foot bow and warband will be FV 5
most infantry will be FV 6
better organised and trained infantry will be FV 7 (Romans, Hoplite)

Guard and exceptional units will be one factor higher – so hypaspists are FV 8

poorer quality and Biblical infantry are usually one factor lower since they weren't so well organised.

Light and LHI troops and cavalry are on a base factor of 4, with very few allowed to be a 5 9more so for cavalry).

Cataphracts and knights get to FV 6,
assyrian type heavy chariots to FV 5,
Indian elephants 5

the flanks are usually 1, 0 if poor, and 2 if adaptable (e.g romans)
and the special factor is usually 1, or 2 if better at fighting in rough ground, for example.

its all quite stright forward

Brummie Lad18 Oct 2010 11:50 a.m. PST

Excellent responses. Just what I was after.

Cheers me dears! grin

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