| colin knight | 20 Jul 2014 2:40 a.m. PST |
I have played basic Impetus couple of times. Like the free Basic Impetus set with vast amount of army lists. It is well supported. Main enjoyment is wonderful multi basing options and use of smaller armies.
Hail Caeser seem very well liked and supported… not cheap but worth playing?? |
| MajorB | 20 Jul 2014 4:26 a.m. PST |
Both are good games, particularly if you add an "Evade" rule to Basic Impetus. HC is easily "tweakable" to reporesent your won views of the effectiveness of the various troop types. I do not understand though, why people think a game must be "well supported". Both BI (plus the army lists) and HC give you pretty much all you need without further "support". |
| passiveaggressive | 20 Jul 2014 4:42 a.m. PST |
Some people need spoon feeding. That's why companies make money from army lists. |
| colin knight | 20 Jul 2014 4:58 a.m. PST |
I have to admit I am a sucker for army lists. Must be WRG 6th days. They were good though to help gain some knowledge of periods and armies when I began to game including how troop types would look.
I agree you can get too hung on lists and I am always ready to adapt any. A good example of lists though is Chariot Wars as it gave lots of info to folks unable to WRG Near East book for example and had lots of inspiring eye candy I also hear Warlord intend on biblical suppliments which has fuelled my interest.
Also in Impetus I like baggage inclusion as it allows dioramas if you like that kind of thing. |
| charliemike | 20 Jul 2014 5:20 a.m. PST |
If you like BI I think you could check full Impetus, it has a lot of Army Lists (I'm another sucker for them) in the rulebook, online and in supplements (5 of them, I think).
I suppose you already know the website, but in case you don't you can find more information here. Luciano |
| Dave Crowell | 20 Jul 2014 7:50 a.m. PST |
I have heard good things about HC and enjoy Impetus. From what I understand the two rules sets take different approaches, but are both fun. There are of course a good number of other equally good rules out there for the period, pick what you like and enjoy. My personal likes at this time are War&Conquest (by Rob Broom so a lot like WAB) and the Hack series by LMW. I like army lists too. They save time when I just want to play. To me the important aspects of "support" for wargames rules are that they be in print and have a good community to ask questions of when I run into an odd rules question. Basic Impetus and War & Conquest offer many free army lists, and Hack includes army lists in the rules books. |
| Axebreaker | 20 Jul 2014 9:00 a.m. PST |
Big Impetus fan here and I recommend the full version which adds a lot more to the game IMHO. However, I agree that part of the charm of BI is it's easier to collect for albeit small regular Impetus games are not a lot more figures needed so I suggest trying the fuller version. Since you can easily use your Impetus bases in HC then it wouldn't hurt to try and compare. Christopher |
| MajorB | 20 Jul 2014 9:23 a.m. PST |
A game using Basic Impetus (with a few tweaks)
link demonstrates that you don't have to slavishly stick to the published army lists. The game in fact won "Best Game" at this year's SOA Battle Day:
link |
| Yesthatphil | 20 Jul 2014 12:39 p.m. PST |
Thanks for mentioning my game MajorB … I was genuinely surprised by the plaudits at the BattleDay, although I would add to the comments about Basic Impetus that it plays at a good pace and therefore we were comfortably able to play a game in both the morning and afternoon sessions (and not all the games featured achieve that) … I'm sure it wouldn't work for everything but if you want a quickish medieval game with a good feel for the hard charging flower of chivalry, then Basic Impetus ticks quite a few boxes … Phil
Ancients on the Move |
| leidang | 21 Jul 2014 9:50 a.m. PST |
I like Hail Ceasar better but I didn't mind Impetus. Hail Ceasar just fits my idea of what I like in a game a bit better. |
