|Major Tom||16 Dec 2016 6:15 a.m. PST|
I love the look of the large Impetus bases and want to base so that I can use Impetus and LADG.
LADG uses 40mm wide bases and Impetus 80mm. An easy solution is to use 2 x 40mm wide bases for Impetus.
What I don't like about LADG basing is the shallow depth of the cavalry/chariot/elephant bases. The cavalry ranks look far too regimented and the chariots/elephants overhang.
I think using 50mm depth for these units would be a solution allowing figures to be arranged in a more dynamic style. Can anyone see any real game changing issues?
Depths for other units would be nearly identical:
20mm Skirmishers/Lights Infantry
30mm FP/Heavy and Medium Infantry
40mm FL/Medium and Light Medium Infantry
| Who asked this joker ||16 Dec 2016 6:27 a.m. PST|
Depth matters little if at all in either game so long as both sides follow the same constraints. Within each game, base width should be uniform for both sides.
|Tarantella||16 Dec 2016 9:13 a.m. PST|
ADLG is fairly easygoing on the depth issue and within a club having everything bar light infantry on 40mm x 40mm bases would be a nice idea too.
Heroic 15's fit better 8 to base and cavaly have a bit more room for positioning on bases of that dimension. As regards large elephants and oversize chariot cabs and chariot horses – well the manufacturers have had enough time.
|Lazyworker||16 Dec 2016 9:24 p.m. PST|
From the couple of Impetus games I've played, I don't see any minor fluctuations of base depth being an issue. Any fast moving light horse/infantry unit will clear your flank whether your base depth is an extra 5 or 10 mm deeper with relative ease once a hole has opened up (or your plan wasn't as good as you thought it was).
|losart||17 Dec 2016 4:49 a.m. PST|
in Impetus (or Basic Impetus 2) depth can count only in 2-3 situations.
1) Interpenetration (counts less in BI2)
2) Flank/rear attack. Well in extreme cases it can make a difference. But pretty rare at the end.
3) Side support (just if you play Advanced Impetus)
Honestly if you don't play at competition (or with a very competitive friend) nothing really important.
|olicana||17 Dec 2016 4:55 a.m. PST|
Deep bases make little difference in most games. If you are collecting both sides, you can do what you like and use house rules to paper over the consequences. Personally I like deep bases, especially for cavalry. These are 60mm x 90mm, four bases a unit, with 18 figures (4, 5, 5, 4) for heavy cavalry, 12 figures (4 x 3) for lighter stuff.
The depth allows for units to look deeper (two ranks) when they are actually only 1.5 ranks deep. This was a Harran 1104 game, where the Seljuk army is 100% mounted.
|Major Tom||17 Dec 2016 11:46 a.m. PST|
Thanks very much for the confirmation Gents.
Deeper bases it is.
Olicana, awesome toys and table set up as always. The staggered basing to give a more massed/ranked look is exactly what I want to achieve with cavalry and also make 'v' formations for cavalry wedges.
| BigRedBat ||17 Dec 2016 1:10 p.m. PST|
Lovely armies Olicana!
Regarding wedges, I would only add these, which are an homage to the WAB wedges.
Also, when basing lights, one can throw out the rulebook; I like to have light cavalry riders circling, which is a reference to a very old WRG rule set (5th? earlier?).
|Major Tom||17 Dec 2016 4:02 p.m. PST|
Hi Simon, when I say a wedge it's really just to give a general impression and be a visual aid for the impact bonus. In LADG it is mainly the Macedonian and Successor cavalry that have this bonus so it looks right I think.
Just 6 x figures divided between 2 x 40 x 50 bases (80 frontage and 50 depth).
| BigRedBat ||17 Dec 2016 4:52 p.m. PST|
It's tricky to split a 6 man wedge across two even-sized bases; the join is just in the wrong place! Unless you can make it a single double-width base, that is.