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Fafhrd Nalgronsson22 Jan 2011 5:57 a.m. PST

I just bought these rules, but the sheet of charts and tables is missing. Can any of you help me out?

quidveritas22 Jan 2011 10:01 a.m. PST

If no one helps you PM me. I think I have this stuff but will have to do some serious digging to get to it.

mjc

Bill Rosser Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2011 10:30 a.m. PST

Fafhrd, let me know where to send copies.
Bill Rosser

aecurtis Fezian22 Jan 2011 12:53 p.m. PST

Same here: I can help. Don't have to dig far!

He can't PM; but if he can post an e-mail address, either Bill or I can respond.

Allen

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2011 4:43 p.m. PST

This must be catching…
I lost my sheets too!

elsyrsyn22 Jan 2011 4:49 p.m. PST

The game any good? I've never seen it.

Doug

aecurtis Fezian22 Jan 2011 5:01 p.m. PST

See:

link

link

..and (Gosh!):

TMP link

Allen

elsyrsyn22 Jan 2011 7:36 p.m. PST

Following those links was worth it, just to see:

The occasional ramblings of a man who lives with three cats and plays with toy soldiers.
grin

The game doesn't sound all that appealing to me as a whole (I'm in a simple rules kind of mood lately), but does sound like it has some interesting ideas buried in it. The fact that it would be near impossible to get, of course, is the clincher. I just recently paid way too much for a (near mint) copy of King of Kings (over which I'm still gloating) … so I've gotten my old-skool game fix for the moment.

Doug

Fafhrd Nalgronsson23 Jan 2011 7:47 a.m. PST

Thanks for the quick response quidveritas, Bill, and Allen.

Send to: foPHH6u5Fij9kFGH@spambox.us

RockyRusso23 Jan 2011 11:47 a.m. PST

Hi

Back in the day, the designer was a sort of "drinking buddy at conventions". Really nice guy who was a lot less dogmatic that many of the experts and designers on TMP.

Long time ago.

R

aecurtis Fezian23 Jan 2011 12:05 p.m. PST

Arnold Hendricks was active in the New England gaming "scene" back in the '70s. As I started out in wargaming with whatever Peter Rice's (previously TMPer Don Lowry's) Toy Soldier shop carried, I was influenced early on by Arnold's "1944" WWII rules, which introduced the "platoon scale" and "bathtub" concepts subsequently used in "Command Decision".

"Ancient Warfare" and "Sword and Spear" were my first ancients rules, and I'll even admit to using their LOTR variants to base my Minifigs Middle Earth figures as well as my Hinchliffe and Garrison ancients. Long time ago, indeed.

I was then bombarded with releases of ancients rules: FGU's "Legion", TSR's "Classic Warfare", "Shock of Impact", Newbury rules… In what in retrospect was probably not the best decision, I abandoned AW for… some edition of WRG Ancients. And it all went downhill from there.

Arnold sort of abandoned the world of miniatures gaming to go into computer game design. I suspect many TMPers will have played his "Pirates!" computer game.

Hank Edley at Gorgon Studios has been trying to hunt down the legacee of Milgamex to find out if its possible to obtain the rights to AW and S&S, but seems to have reached a dead end for now. AW may not be to everyone's taste these days, but S&S was very interesting.

Allen

Fafhrd Nalgronsson23 Jan 2011 2:29 p.m. PST

Allen is going to send me a copy of the charts. Thanks again to all those who offered to help.

Re: Sword & Spear – I've been thinking about buying these, too, but haven't been able to find out much about them.

aecurtis Fezian23 Jan 2011 2:42 p.m. PST

S&S was individual (1:1) combat, but troops could be formed into ranks for unit combat. Infantry was on a square base, but with one corner forward (like a diamond shape), allowing for differentiation between shielded and unshielded frontal aspects. Cavalry was on a normal rectangular individual base, as were elephants and chariots. The infantry did look odd ranked up with a "sawtooth" front rank!

The game mechanisms were about as complex as AW.

link

Allen

KSmyth23 Jan 2011 5:38 p.m. PST

Used to play Ancient Warfare back in the day (some 30 years ago.) I thought they were a hoot. They were kind of quirky, but still fun.

K.

lapatrie8824 Jan 2011 11:26 a.m. PST

These were my first set of historical miniatures rules, bought from a role-playing (D&D) hobby store. Didn't know what historical miniatures were at the time. I also got Milgamex's book of army lists, written for WRG. That is also a good piece of work.

The Milgamex Ancient Warfare rules rank #2 in influencing my introduction to wargaming, right after the October 1966 issue of National Geographic featuring the battle of Hastings and the Bayeux Tapestry. And then Don Featherstone's books which someone fortunately had donated to our public library.

RockyRusso24 Jan 2011 11:34 a.m. PST

Hi

Allen, we were sitting around the pool one night in the 70s with a bunch of other nuts like Ken StAndre, Liz Danforth, Mike Stackpole and others drinking beer when we saw "Ninja"s.

Did you hear THAT story?

Ken also went into the computer game madness. Sadly, he was swallowed up by the field.

R

aecurtis Fezian24 Jan 2011 5:12 p.m. PST

"Did you hear THAT story?"

No, and I hesitate to ask!

Allen

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