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Mon Nov 15 19:47:48 PST 1999 |
Voters = 22 |
ANCIENTS VOTING RESULTS:
Voters, By Period - Persia
Favorite Rules | ||
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rules | percentage | |
Archon | 23% | |
De Bellis Multitudinis | 18% | |
Armati | 14% | |
Tactica | 9% | |
Warhammer Ancient Battles | 9% | |
Athena | 5% | |
Classical Hack | 5% | |
De Bellis Antiquitatis | 5% | |
Legion & Empire | 5% | |
Legions & Lions | 5% | |
Wargame Rules 1420-1700 | 5% |
Rules Regularly Played | ||
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rules played regularly | percentage | |
De Bellis Antiquitatis | 41% | |
Archon | 27% | |
De Bellis Multitudinis | 27% | |
Armati | 23% | |
Warhammer Ancient Battles | 18% | |
Tactica | 14% | |
WRG Ancients | 14% | |
Classical Hack | 9% | |
Shock of Impact | 9% | |
Wargame Rules 1420-1700 | 9% | |
Ancient Empires | 5% | |
Athena | 5% | |
Holy Hack | 5% | |
Legion & Empire | 5% | |
Legions & Lions | 5% | |
Might of Arms | 5% |
Number of Rules Regularly Played | ||
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number of rules played regularly | percentage | |
1 rules played | 45% | |
2 rules played | 27% | |
4 rules played | 14% | |
3 rules played | 5% | |
5 rules played | 5% | |
6 rules played | 5% |
Rules Tried | ||
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rules played at least once | percentage | |
De Bellis Antiquitatis | 73% | |
WRG Ancients | 73% | |
De Bellis Multitudinis | 55% | |
Armati | 50% | |
Tactica | 41% | |
Warhammer Ancient Battles | 36% | |
Archon | 27% | |
Wargame Rules 1420-1700 | 27% | |
Classical Hack | 23% | |
Fast Play Rules For Ancient Warfare | 18% | |
Shock of Impact | 18% | |
Ancient Empires | 14% | |
Holy Hack | 9% | |
Might of Arms | 9% | |
Ancients | 5% | |
Clash | 5% | |
Glutter of Ravens | 5% | |
Lance | 5% | |
Legio | 5% | |
Legion | 5% | |
Legion & Empire | 5% | |
Legions & Lions | 5% |
Number of Rules Tried | ||
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number of rules played | percentage | |
2 rules played | 18% | |
6 rules played | 18% | |
4 rules played | 14% | |
5 rules played | 14% | |
10 rules played | 9% | |
3 rules played | 9% | |
7 rules played | 9% | |
1 rules played | 5% | |
12 rules played | 5% |
Voters, By Experience | ||
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level of experience | percentage | |
Up To Twenty Years | 33% | |
Twenty Years or More | 29% | |
Up To Ten Years | 29% | |
Two to Three Years | 10% |
Voters, By Region | ||
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region | percentage | |
North America | 65% | |
Europe | 20% | |
Western Pacific | 15% |
Voters, By Setting | ||
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usual game setting | percentage | |
With a friend or two | 55% | |
At the local club | 32% | |
At gaming conventions | 5% | |
At the local game store | 5% | |
Solitaire | 5% |
Number of Armies | ||
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number of armies owned or used | percentage | |
15 army/armies | 10% | |
7 army/armies | 10% | |
9 army/armies | 10% | |
1 army/armies | 5% | |
12 army/armies | 5% | |
13 army/armies | 5% | |
16 army/armies | 5% | |
18 army/armies | 5% | |
19 army/armies | 5% | |
2 army/armies | 5% | |
21 army/armies | 5% | |
28 army/armies | 5% | |
35 army/armies | 5% | |
4 army/armies | 5% | |
43 army/armies | 5% | |
46 army/armies | 5% | |
5 army/armies | 5% | |
68 army/armies | 5% |
Armies Owned/Used | ||
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armies owned or used | percentage | |
Later Hoplite Greek | 67% | |
Gallic | 62% | |
Marian Roman | 57% | |
Alexandrian Macedonian | 52% | |
Early Achaemenid Persian | 52% | |
Later Achaemenid Persian | 52% | |
Early Hoplite Greek | 43% | |
Early Imperial Roman | 43% | |
Later Carthaginian | 43% | |
Camillan Roman | 38% | |
Early Seleucid | 38% | |
Polybian Roman | 38% | |
Thracian | 38% | |
Alexandrian Imperial | 33% | |
Ancient British | 33% | |
Early Roman | 33% | |
Early Spartan | 33% | |
Later Seleucid | 33% | |
Parthian | 33% | |
Dacian | 29% | |
Early Byzantine | 29% | |
Late-Roman West | 29% | |
Pontic | 29% | |
Antigonid | 24% | |
Early Carthaginian | 24% | |
Early Indian | 24% | |
Hellenistic Greek | 24% | |
Late-Roman East | 24% | |
Later Macedonian | 24% | |
Later Sassanid | 24% | |
Macedonian Early Successor | 24% | |
Middle Anglo-Saxon | 24% | |
Middle Imperial Roman | 24% | |
New Assyrian | 24% | |
Caledonian/Pictish | 19% | |
Early German | 19% | |
Early North Greek | 19% | |
Early Sassanid | 19% | |
Early Saxon | 19% | |
Eumenid | 19% | |
Hittite | 19% | |
Hunnic | 19% | |
Lysamachid | 19% | |
Pyrrhic | 19% | |
Skythian | 19% | |
Sub-Roman British | 19% | |
Ancient Spanish | 14% | |
Bactrian and Indo-Greek | 14% | |
Early Frankish | 14% | |
Early Gothic/Vandal | 14% | |
Early Ptolemaic | 14% | |
Later Ptolemaic | 14% | |
Later Visigothic | 14% | |
New Kingdom Egyptian | 14% | |
Patrician Roman | 14% | |
Syracusan | 14% | |
African Vandal | 10% | |
Ch'in Chinese | 10% | |
Dark Age and Geometric Greek | 10% | |
Early Armenian | 10% | |
Early Assyrian | 10% | |
Early Libyan | 10% | |
Early Northern Barbarian | 10% | |
Etruscan | 10% | |
Galatian | 10% | |
Gepid/Lombard | 10% | |
Han Chinese | 10% | |
Italian Ostrogothic | 10% | |
Jewish Revolt | 10% | |
Later Libyan | 10% | |
Maccabean Jewish | 10% | |
Mede | 10% | |
Moorish | 10% | |
Mycenean & Minoan | 10% | |
Numidian | 10% | |
Old & Middle Kingdom Egyptian | 10% | |
Palmyran | 10% | |
Alan | 5% | |
Campanian/Apulian | 5% | |
Chinese Border Nomad | 5% | |
Chou Chinese | 5% | |
Cyropaedic Persian | 5% | |
Early Canaanite | 5% | |
Early Hebrew | 5% | |
Early Syrian | 5% | |
Hyksos | 5% | |
Illyrian | 5% | |
Kushan | 5% | |
Kushite Egyptian | 5% | |
Libyan Egyptian | 5% | |
Lydian | 5% | |
New Babylonian | 5% | |
Nubian | 5% | |
Philistine | 5% | |
Saitic Egyptian | 5% | |
Samnite/Umbrian | 5% | |
Sea Peoples | 5% | |
Slav | 5% |
Periods Played | ||
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period | percentage | |
Persia | 100% | |
Rome | 91% | |
Greece | 82% | |
Decline of Rome | 64% | |
Assyria | 32% | |
India | 32% | |
Egypt | 27% | |
What-If | 27% | |
Hittite | 18% | |
China | 14% | |
Competitive/Tournament | 14% |
Number of Periods Played | ||
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number of genres/periods played | percentage | |
4 periods | 27% | |
5 periods | 18% | |
7 periods | 18% | |
2 periods | 9% | |
3 periods | 9% | |
6 periods | 9% | |
8 periods | 9% |
Scales Used | ||
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figure scale | percentage | |
15mm | 73% | |
25mm | 59% | |
6mm | 14% | |
20mm | 9% |
Number of Scales | ||
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number of figure scale(s) used (per person) | percentage | |
1 figure scale(s) used | 55% | |
2 figure scale(s) used | 36% | |
3 figure scale(s) used | 9% |
RECENT BATTLE REPORTS |
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howielex |
DBA: EIR vs. Galacians. EIR won 4-0 with a good terrain position and poor chariot play by the Galacians. [23 Sep 1999] |
Tony Barr |
Camapaign game from the Antiquity Campaign I run at the Humberside Wargames Society. I take the part of independent provinces when invaded by players. Yesterday I was Rhoxolani Sarmatians against the player controlled Sarmatians. I lost.... [19 Sep 1999] |
Michael Walsh |
DBM Ch'in vs Indians at 400pts, Ch'in spear centre rolled over the Indian centre of Bows and Elephants into the Indian camp whilst Chariots and cavalry of both sides skirmished indecisively. [17 Sep 1999] |
Scott Cameron |
I played a game of Legion & Empire against James Manto(rules designer) that involved a force of Sassanid Persians against a Late Roman army. Since I usually play the Sassanid persians, I decided to switch and try the Roman army for a change. The Romans were unlitmately victorious as the Sassanids over exteneded themselves after a successful carge against my line, they were surrounded and hacked down! Glory for Rome! [08 Sep 1999] |
K. A. Brown |
Small battle: Marian Rome vs. Early Spartans. The Romans were beaten, maunly due to being enveloped, and losing the general (his unit was hit in flank). Nasty game all in all. I failed to keep my focus :( [7 Jun 1999] |
steve dungworth |
Roman Civil war with 3 legions per side (25mm) legions being about 150 figures strong in a fairly rough terrain with key objectives set for each side to obtain by set moves. A very hard fought battle over about 6 hours one Saturday. Result I acheived my objectives but suffered very heavy casualties so really a pyrric victory in that sense. My opponents failed to hit their objectives and also suffered heavy casualties (we only had about 2% difference). Using Athena ancient rules [19 May 1999] |
Kevin Donovan |
Malaccan infantry defated Assyrian chariots and veteran infantry while the Malaccan archers and elephants held off and then defeated Assyrian cavalry and light infantry. [23 May 1999] |
K. T. |
I fought an ahistorical contest between an Early Imperial Roman force and Porus Indians. The battle was fought using the Archon rules and actually turned out to be rather exciting. The Indian cavalry nearly enveloped the Roman infantry, but failed to pass their courage tests at a most inopportune time. The Roman infantry then crushed the Indian infantry in the center resulting in the Indian army routing. [12 May 99] |
a a sherlock |
Got my Celts stuffed by Early Imp Romans, used a rosta system (archon) and felt that up until the last moment that my Celts were in with a chance, then it all went pear shaped, [2 May 99] |
Patrick Velas |
Greek vs Greek, around 18 units and 2 players per side using Archon (Piquet) rules. The Spartans and their allies were fighting the Athenians and their Allies. The Spartans tried desperately to engage the left wing of the army before their allies were destroyed. The Athenian side jabbed with their cav & Lt troops on the left, keeping the Spartans away from their battleline for as long as possible. Meanwhile the Athenian right swept forward at a rapid pace as their cavalry overwhelmed their counterparts on the Spartan left. Then as their flank was threatened, the Spartan Allies were hit to the front by the Athenian Hoplites. As the Hoplites clashed the Athenian Cavalry swept into the flank. Meanwhile the Spartans were just coming to grips with the Athenian allies. They closed to engage, but before they could shatter the allied Hoplites, their allies on their left crumbled and fled. The army's morale was gone with their flank. The Athenians and their allies were victorious as they managed to delay engaging the powerful Spartiates while taking advantage of their superior mounted arm to aid their hoplites against the Spartan allied Hoplites. The cavalry turned what could have been a slugfest into a one sided affair. I have played many ancient rules for many years. Archon is on a different level altogether, in excitement, playability and it absolutely gives the best feel when related to historical accounts. [28 Apr 99] |
Eric Burgess |
We fought an Archon game between a combined Greek force versus Persians and Mendizing Greeks. The Greeks won, but it was a very close battle. I can't remember all the details since it was about 3 months ago. You can see pictures of the battle at the following website. http://www.garrison-clubs.org/clubs/charlottegallery.htm - Eric Burgess [27 Apr 99] |
Philip J. Viverito |
Fought 3 Dacian war scenarios. The Watch Tower. Dacians attack a Roman watch tower on the Danube. Dacians destroyed the Roman Auxilia as the legion came on to late. Dacians in the Field-Dacians fought the Romans of Trajan in an open battle. Romans were fought to a draw. Dacians in the passes. The Romans had two passes to secure to enter Dacia. The Romans cleared the passes. [14 Apr 99] |
Casper Renes |
Seleukid vs. Romans I lost. We used DBM rules. [4 Apr 99] |
Mitch Berdinka |
We played an eastern Roman Legion against a western Legion using DBA rules. The more numerous cavalry in the eastern army was a definite advantage enabling an easy win, though not before the other side had wiped out one of the cohorts by some really hoy die rolls. [3 Apr 99] |
Terry Cabak |
A general presentation of the rules Legions & Lions at Kit-Con in Elgin, Illinois [3 Apr 99] |
Bob Jones |
A typical forest action a depleted legion versus a Gallic Hoard. Nip and all the way with the Romans breaking the Gaul's morale at the very end and holding the ground. [3 Apr 99] |
hal goff |
last campaign using avalon hill's 'hannibal' with armati rules and 4-5 players. generated 6-8 games [2 Apr 99] |
Bill Hawkes |
Hittites vs Egyptians, 15mm Tactica rules (home-brew Hittite list). I altered the existing Egyptian list to a more New Kingdom style: no cavalry, added one unit of Shardana Guard HI (24 figs, FV 5-6, +2 morale, swords). Hittites attacked on left and Egyptians withdrew slowly. The Pharaoh tried to counterattack too late on his own left, while the Hittite numbers overwhelmed the Egyptian right wing. [31 Mar 99] |
Gavin Fielder |
British Celts v's Roman. Romans set up on a hill facing Britons across a clear vally. Britons had left their chariots behind but pushed on regardless. kept advancing then charged up hill. On the left flank the British cav outnumbered the Roman cav 2-1 but still went down in a screaming heap ruining the expected envelopment. In the center the impetuous charge of the warbands broke one cohort but couldn't catch in persuit the other cohort held firm. On the British right flank skirmishers kept each other busy. Next turn the Broken Cohort rallied only to be charged again, this time they held Roman cav returned to main battle charging a warband in the flank causing the warband to rout never to return. The skirmishers kept doing their duty however the second warband was surrounded and broken causing a general withdrawl. In the end more Romans than Britons died however the Romans were left holding the field. But we shall return thistime with ye olde British panzer brigade. [31 Mar 99] |
S. Johnson |
We use set-up points and not historical armies, usually. 80 set-up points this time. It's larger than the 12-stand DBA variant but just about as quick. Terrain played a factor since a river of unknowable depth passed through three quadrants. Using an 8-sided die to see how many units could move/turn was appropriate for 80 set-up points, but don't think that it necessarily allows anything like an Ancients "blitzkrieg." In fact, the side that lost had difficulty in the mid-game moving more than two of his five units in any given turn. The "good guys" (i.e. me) won, killing off some heavy chariots (classified as knights) and taking the camp. Light horse on both sides did an impressive job. [31 Mar 99] |