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Justin Penwith13 Jun 2012 6:15 p.m. PST

Two part epoxy with a little ink added makes for fine "water" and I KNOW it will be dried within 24 hours. However, do not paint the surface under where the epoxy is to be placed as the mixture heats up a bit and can (will) change the color of the paint underneath.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian13 Jun 2012 6:36 p.m. PST

I suppose it depends on the brand. The two-part epoxy I usually use is yellowish when dry.

Also, in my experience, two-part epoxy would be more expensive to use than this product (to fill the same amount of space). Or maybe you know of a more cost-effective epoxy than I do?

Personal logo Ratbone Supporting Member of TMP13 Jun 2012 6:58 p.m. PST

I've been using Vallejo "Still Water" for some time and it is great. Dries overnight to good hard consistency. Is actually pretty much like water when going in so fills nicely in the space. Sometimes takes some encouragement to move as it is thick enough to hold still in small amounts but thing enough to escape through cracks. So your space has to be pretty much watertight.

Although I've not tried to fill this large of a space before, my biggest area being about a 60mm round base mostly filled for a crocogator in a swamp.

This stuff also works great put into the tufts of grass and such to make swampy grasses.

WarDepotDavid Supporting Member of TMP13 Jun 2012 7:12 p.m. PST

Nice work.

Scott Kursk Inactive Member13 Jun 2012 7:26 p.m. PST

It looks absolutely great. I'm guessing the white spots are fingerprints or smudges that you totally didn't notice. For some reason, the better looking the pond or water effect, the more likely you are to have a stray bit of finger oil. At least that is how it worked for me.

Justin Penwith13 Jun 2012 7:46 p.m. PST

Getting epoxy via Amazon, gets you a price comparable to the realistic water link

Also, use the yellowish tinge to your advantage…water is almost never blue…but rather blue-green…so, with the right blue ink, you get a good blue-green water.

When I made tables for Games Workshop retail stores, epoxy and blue ink were heavily favored.

and this doesn't cause me to change my mind: link

Personal logo The Beast Rabban Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2012 2:35 p.m. PST

For shallow bodies of water, I have painted the bottom to my liking using watercolory effects; greenish for swamp, whatever. flock the sides, then pour in a very thin layer of Furure floor wax (even using it on terrain, it is still going to last me forever).

Personal logo richarDISNEY of the RDGC Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member19 Jun 2012 7:48 a.m. PST

I heard that this link works REALLY well for water.
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Ginfritter Sponsoring Member of TMP Inactive Member30 Jun 2012 9:49 a.m. PST

Water effects works very well, but you need to read the instructions and since it is a water based acrylic, pouring a large mass will make the material take a really long time to set. I never pour more than 1/8" at a time and then it is cured in less than 48 hours.

Personal logo StarfuryXL5 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2012 10:06 a.m. PST

If you ever try it again, maybe a chisel would make it easier to carve out the foam.

StarfuryXL5

Schogun Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2012 4:48 a.m. PST

I think the white spots are fingerprints. I have a few in my pond where I tested how hard the water was. It wasn't, and the fingerprint never settled.

My pond has never completely hardened. I packed it up once, stored it in my basement, so cool temperature, and when I next took it out to use, there were lots of new impressions where other pieces of terrain had touched the water.

skinkmasterreturns10 Jul 2012 5:15 a.m. PST

In the rule set Song of Blades and Heroes,there is a terrain feature called "sticky weed". I used the plastic grass tufts from the GW LoTR mounted figures,mounted them on a base and painted them.After they were dry,I took a small amount of Vallejo "Still Water",mixed some yellow ink into it,and slopped it over the grass and base.It looked oozy and sticky,appropriates for the piece.If I was doing Nurgle for Warhammer,I would use the same method to depict oozing pustules or similar.

SciasCray Inactive Member15 Sep 2012 2:53 p.m. PST

I've found that this works well for water: link

If you want to make sure it's sealed against accidental drowning on your table, a quick shot of sealer or a "wet look" nail polish/ clear varnish should do the trick. I've found it at hardware & craft stores as well as Wal-mart, Target & K-mart so it should be easy to find.

dsfrank26 Sep 2012 7:14 p.m. PST

Like Justin – I worked for GW for a few years and the Enbvirotex – Pour On – producted mentioned above was our prouct of choice for Games Day tables & store tables as well as our own terrain for those of us that built terrain – do make sure it is mixed very well

Personal logo Ratbone Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2012 8:36 p.m. PST

So you cut a hole in vinyl tile and then glued foam down on top or under the vinyl tile?

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