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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 2:26 a.m. PST

That was informative, if a bit odd. In my experience, if it's in the rules it's on the table. But the rules don't come in multiple volumes.

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 5:43 a.m. PST

We tend to use our rules heavily modified for our own group. I think that means we use a sub set of rules but a lot of our own.

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My dislexia is playing up I've modified the above several times but still I'm not sure if it makes sense

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 7:24 a.m. PST

Huh? Don't think I'll ever have enough coffee to parse that question.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 7:44 a.m. PST

I'm not sure what the quote has to do with your hypothesis.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 8:47 a.m. PST

79th, I think everyone's favorite ipi used the quote to suggest that, looked at from a certain perspective, WWII skirmish is a subset of SF skirmish: the WWII player has fewer options than the SF player, but all the WWWII options are available to the SF player. (Playing AWI with Regimental Fire & Fury would be another example: the players just leave out all the "modern" inovations.)

This leads to his more general point that not all rules are used in all games, which is usually true: the rules may have a terrain penalty for swamps without the host placing a swamp on every tabletop. There may be a special rule for the Guard Cossacks and no Russian army in a particular game. Or the players may detest the weather rules and declare habitually that "the battle takes place in perfect weather."

In a logical/mathematical sense, pretty much any miniatures game is played in a subset of the rules for those or similar reasons, so I suppose Eto's question is how often and how habitually so many things are not present that we can be said not to be using the whole rule book.

Eto, have I got that right?

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 8:56 a.m. PST

I use Song of and its variants for most of my games. I don't use all the rules parts though.

rmaker29 Oct 2024 11:09 a.m. PST

I tend to use a subset, but not the same subset for each game.

jefritrout29 Oct 2024 11:29 a.m. PST

For my set of rules (that I wrote with my dad) we use all of the rules. When we play it at a convention, we use a subset for the first couple of turns to ease the new players in, but then go full Monty and use everything.

For a popular ancient set of rules, I don't have a clue how to answer. The rules take parts and pieces from other popular sets of rules and combine them into a set that was to the author's person taste and is now very popular. For Napoleonic games, I play In the Grand Manner which has huge 36 or even 60 figure battalions and 40 figure cavalry regiments. But I also play some skirmish games in that era. Too many different games to be able to answer coherently.

Cerdic29 Oct 2024 1:03 p.m. PST

What's this question got to do with homesteaders and nomads?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2024 1:57 p.m. PST

For that, Cerdic, you want info straight from the ipi's mouth. At a guess, "homesteaders" use the full range of local resources--in this case, rules--and "nomads" take what they want and move on. But that's only a guess. Still, "Homesteaders and Nomads" sounds like a reasonably fun skirmish/RPG game.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2024 8:52 a.m. PST

Depends

For some games/rules, straight out of the rule book – for others, local mods – for example, for our Black Powder SYW games we play that you have to fire before you move

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