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doubleones16 Nov 2023 3:40 a.m. PST

This is exactly why I started writing my own rules ten years ago. Just because a game includes lots of pages and a four-page "QRS" doesn't make it any good.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 9:52 a.m. PST

I don't know how you would list this, but for me, it is rules that make players sit around as one person moves and resolves everything.

Titchmonster16 Nov 2023 5:55 p.m. PST

Rules lawyers who pre measure everything . So it's the players more often than the rules

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 6:05 p.m. PST

Rules lawyers

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 6:27 p.m. PST

Familiarity with more complex rules systems can be part of the rules lawyer piece. The more a rule set is used – I find the faster it goes as a rule

A Bad scenario can also derail a game

Not be prepared for the game as a host as well

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 11:32 p.m. PST

Bad scenario and setting up impossible victory conditions or objectives relative to the rules used. For example, if a unit is required to March the width of a six foot table in four turns, but the fastest movement rate is 8 inches, then it is impossible for a player reach the objective in the time allowed.

doubleones17 Nov 2023 3:45 a.m. PST

@Grattan54 – that's called "Crap Game Design"

Fitzovich Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2023 6:10 a.m. PST

Poor planing by the GM

Radetzky March Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2023 8:07 p.m. PST

Rules lawyers

Unfamiliarity with rules

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