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Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2015 6:10 a.m. PST

How can I vote in this. I live about as far as you can get from a primary target in the UK. I am staying there but what I would do if I was in a target area is nowhere in my thoughts.

I vote Zradox.

x42

Rebelyell200621 May 2015 6:29 a.m. PST

If I knew missiles were coming, it probably wouldn't be until they were ten minutes or less away since I do not have any connections to early warning radar operators. So my only choice would be to stay. If the explosion does not kill me, I'll finish the job myself because an irradiated America would not be worth living in.

D6 Junkie21 May 2015 7:19 a.m. PST

I'm with Rebelyell.
Go down like the band on the Titanic.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2015 7:39 a.m. PST

A lot of variables to weigh but my from-the-hip answer is to stay where my family is. Flee to them if I need to, but stay with them.

pmwalt21 May 2015 7:48 a.m. PST

With the EMP effects, I doubt many folks would be able to flee as most vehicles would not be able to start as the electronics aren't hardened. I'd shelter in place … at least I have shelter, food and protection here. Caveat that with "if I'm alive"

RavenscraftCybernetics21 May 2015 8:09 a.m. PST

Im very near a target zone. Even with 24hrs notice, I couldnt get away safely so Bleeped text it! this is where I'll die. Its as good of a place as any: No lingering illness to worry about.

Buff Orpington21 May 2015 8:13 a.m. PST

Depends on how much warning, if I can join all the boat people that will be heading for Ireland that would be worth it.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2015 11:14 a.m. PST

I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. I was a 16 year old sitting in the lunch room discussing this very point. Most guys wanted to flee to their girl friends. Girls just cried. I'll hate the Castros till the day I die for fomenting that terrifying period.

Today I'd stay and live for the few months till I ran out of medicine and died. Onward through the Fog!

Old Contemptibles21 May 2015 12:10 p.m. PST

First place my family lived was near a SAC base. The second place my family lived was near a nuke weapons facility. I now live near a bigger nuke weapons facility and an airbase. So I would want to get as far away, as quickly as I can, to the middle of no where. But as others have said, fleeing maybe futile.

Do you want to play a game?

MarescialloDiCampo21 May 2015 12:23 p.m. PST

Hmm, maybe all the base closures aren't bad. I remember seeing a couple of overlays on the predicted overlap if 'X' amount of missiles got through.
Then there are the weather effects (same with Chem Bio) – I'd flee home and then face the rest as it came on…
Those on the heavily impacted East Coast however…hmmm

Winston Smith21 May 2015 4:15 p.m. PST

Where I live, the roads are do perpetually crappy that I would be sitting in a traffic jam watching the missiles come in.
So, why not go downstairs and get some painting done on the chance that it's all a bluff.

J Womack 9421 May 2015 7:47 p.m. PST

I have enough lead lingin one particular room in the house that I would be safe from teh effects of radiation. Far enough that the blast wouldn't definitively knock down the house, depending on exactly where the warhead detonated. Fireball, ditto.

I'll stay.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian21 May 2015 8:18 p.m. PST

In the immortal words of George A. Custer, "A good run is better than a bad stand."

Terrement21 May 2015 8:32 p.m. PST

I'm not sure I'd take advice from Custer…

Weasel21 May 2015 8:40 p.m. PST

Unless we managed to stay out of it, Denmark would have been wiped out by nuclear weapons so it wouldn't matter where I'd try to go to.

Zardoz22 May 2015 1:55 a.m. PST

No Zardoz ?

:-(

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2015 4:39 a.m. PST

I live in the states. Back in the day, I trained to delivered those weapons against assigned targets. I know full well what they are capable of doing. During that time, I didn't have a choice. Now I do.

Despite all the fear-mongers (and there is plenty to be afraid of) nuclear war is survivable. People will survive and work to rebuild. heavens, look at modern Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I intend to survive, along with my family.

With modern media, and any sort of common sense and ability to pay attention to what's going on, you'll be able to see things getting out of hand and gain a few day's warning. Play it safe and leave then. Take vacation time, get the kids out of school, and tell them you're "going camping".

I keep a few things always with me in our car, just because we have such outrageous winters where I live. But I also keep 2 go-bags packed. One for me, and one for my daughter. There's also a 5-gallon container to fill with water, 2 to fill with gas on the way out, and a container of freeze dried food and 2 sleeping bags, etc. Takes all of 10 minutes to pack fully and be out of the city limits from our house. We've tried it.

Anyway, yeah. I'll attempt to flee and survive. Should make for some interesting times afterward.

Raynman Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2015 6:17 a.m. PST

I'm with you TK. Ready to go at a moments notice!

PistolPete22 May 2015 11:24 a.m. PST

i'm heading to my family, then as close to ground 0 as possible. just die and get it over. there's no way i have any kind of long lasting survival skills to endure however long it takes to 'rebuild' anything.

Sergeant Paper22 May 2015 3:15 p.m. PST

I live betweem two primary targets, and I'd have to fly commercial to escape, so staying is the only choice…

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2015 10:47 p.m. PST

As a reserve police officer I would stay at my post until the end, of if I can't get to my city, I will work were I can.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Weasel23 May 2015 1:00 p.m. PST

THis seems relevant. See for yourself!

nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap

Mute Bystander24 May 2015 1:42 p.m. PST

Dong Feng 5. If they hit Scott AFB, stay. SS-25 on Scott,stay at least initially.

If they hit Saint Louis, I'm probably dead. SS-25 on Saint louis, like Dong Feng 5, dead.

Terrorist device at work – dead; on a day off, stay, wait to see what DC decides to do with us. I know the plan but it is unrealistic…

If not dead in any other (not counting US weapons) case, I might be tempted to try to flee and possibly contact government/military POCs afterwards but all those highway over passes ringing Saint Louis… OMG.

The 100MT "Tsar Bomba" on Scott AFB, so screwed… 3rd degree burnsout past Chesterfield and Saint Charles, MO.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP25 May 2015 2:49 p.m. PST

Weasel. I doubt any major power would waste nukes on Scandinavia. mabye one for each of the capitals MABYE.

Most nukes would hit the other nuclear powers. Germany would get nuked just because of its size and military power (cant remember if there are any us nukes in germany anymore )

Only the us and Russia actually got enough nukes to sprsy and pray them.

China only have enough nukes for the most important targets, and only a few of those can be made ready in a short time.

India and Pakistan would mostly just bomb each other.

So unless nato collapses and the us starts nuking us. We only have to worry about russia. And again most likely they have bigger fish to nuke

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP25 May 2015 9:38 p.m. PST

Yow. This is a question that seriously needs more nuanced choices than simply "Flee" or "Stay." CONTEXT!!!

Someplace to flee to? Plans made in advance? Support network? Adequate survival resources and skills? What about dependents? Advance warning of any sort? Full-scale nuclear exchange or limited? And so on.

vtsaogames26 May 2015 12:57 p.m. PST

Mix a stiff drink and sit.

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