Fitzovich | 06 Dec 2019 2:57 a.m. PST |
I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. John Adams |
advocate | 06 Dec 2019 3:28 a.m. PST |
Wellington: "Next to a battle lost, the greatest misery is a battle gained." |
robert piepenbrink | 06 Dec 2019 5:47 a.m. PST |
Clausewitz: "Everything is simple in war, but the simplest thing is very difficult." |
USAFpilot | 06 Dec 2019 6:57 a.m. PST |
All warfare is based upon deception. -SunTsu |
dapeters | 06 Dec 2019 9:24 a.m. PST |
Robert E. Lee : "it is good that war is terrible, otherwise men would grow fond of it." |
brass1 | 06 Dec 2019 10:54 a.m. PST |
William Tecumseh Sherman:"You might as well appeal against the thunder-storm as against these terrible hardships of war." LT
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John the Greater | 06 Dec 2019 2:57 p.m. PST |
During times of peace, the sons bury their fathers, but in war it is the fathers who send their sons to the grave." Herodotus |
Flashman14 | 07 Dec 2019 7:44 a.m. PST |
Yes, Orwell wrote those words but they in no way articulate his view on war any more than Tolkien thought bridges should not be crossed. |
etotheipi | 07 Dec 2019 9:23 a.m. PST |
Yes, Orwell wrote those words Absolutely. Orwell put those words in the mouth of Big Brother, the political entity you were supposed to fear becoming, so, yeah, not close to a sympathetic character. |
The Virtual Armchair General | 07 Dec 2019 10:46 a.m. PST |
Plus 1 to Flashman14 and etotheipi. Orwell's quotation actually seems badly out of place in this initial list. TVAG |
brave face | 09 Dec 2019 12:24 p.m. PST |
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Gunfreak | 09 Dec 2019 1:23 p.m. PST |
Orwell's quotation actually seems badly out of place in this initial list. Unless those that voted for it, are genuinely honest to god facists, in which case the quote might perfectly sum up their view. |
robert piepenbrink | 10 Dec 2019 8:15 a.m. PST |
Have to disagree, Gunfreak. One of the very few nice things I'll say about the Hitlers and Mussolinis of this world is that while they sometimes lie, they don't engage in euphemisms: when they conquer, kill and loot, that's what they say they're doing. It's the Leninist left which calls extermination "re-education" and "relocation," conquest "liberation" and colonies "republics." The wacko right might pick the old Patton quote about all other human activities being insignificant next to war, but they wouldn't call it "peace." |