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Fitzovich06 Dec 2019 1:57 a.m. PST

I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.

John Adams

advocate06 Dec 2019 2:28 a.m. PST

Wellington: "Next to a battle lost, the greatest misery is a battle gained."

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP06 Dec 2019 4:47 a.m. PST

Clausewitz: "Everything is simple in war, but the simplest thing is very difficult."

USAFpilot06 Dec 2019 5:57 a.m. PST

All warfare is based upon deception.
-SunTsu

dapeters06 Dec 2019 8:24 a.m. PST

Robert E. Lee : "it is good that war is terrible, otherwise men would grow fond of it."

Personal logo brass1 Supporting Member of TMP06 Dec 2019 9:54 a.m. PST

William Tecumseh Sherman:"You might as well appeal against the thunder-storm as against these terrible hardships of war."


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Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP06 Dec 2019 1:57 p.m. PST

During times of peace, the sons bury their fathers, but in war it is the fathers who send their sons to the grave."

Herodotus

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2019 6:44 a.m. PST

Yes, Orwell wrote those words but they in no way articulate his view on war any more than Tolkien thought bridges should not be crossed.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Dec 2019 8:23 a.m. PST

Yes, Orwell wrote those words

Absolutely. Orwell put those words in the mouth of Big Brother, the political entity you were supposed to fear becoming, so, yeah, not close to a sympathetic character.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Dec 2019 9:46 a.m. PST

Plus 1 to Flashman14 and etotheipi.

Orwell's quotation actually seems badly out of place in this initial list.

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brave face09 Dec 2019 11:24 a.m. PST

War is Hell.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP09 Dec 2019 12:23 p.m. PST

Orwell's quotation actually seems badly out of place in this initial list.

Unless those that voted for it, are genuinely honest to god facists, in which case the quote might perfectly sum up their view.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2019 7:15 a.m. PST

Have to disagree, Gunfreak. One of the very few nice things I'll say about the Hitlers and Mussolinis of this world is that while they sometimes lie, they don't engage in euphemisms: when they conquer, kill and loot, that's what they say they're doing. It's the Leninist left which calls extermination "re-education" and "relocation," conquest "liberation" and colonies "republics."

The wacko right might pick the old Patton quote about all other human activities being insignificant next to war, but they wouldn't call it "peace."

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