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Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2020 9:45 a.m. PST

You have to admire Alice Roosevelt Longworth for her honesty. She famously said: "If you can't say something nice about somebody…sit next to me."

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2020 10:50 a.m. PST

Had to go with Teddy – but Kermit Roosevelt would have been my 2nd

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Jun 2020 11:51 a.m. PST

Teddy for sure. What an amazing man and great president.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Jun 2020 1:53 p.m. PST

And in at least two great films! grin

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2020 3:02 p.m. PST


USAFpilot In the TMP Dawghouse20 Jun 2020 3:46 p.m. PST

Wow, I can't remember the last time I saw a poll that had such a decisive result. Usually don't see any choice make it past the 50% mark.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2020 5:58 p.m. PST

Not much love for 4 term president FDR?

I guess the New Deal and winning WWII doesn't count for much….

Mithmee20 Jun 2020 8:26 p.m. PST

No it doesn't plus he did not win World War II.

So Teddy it is.

Better President as well.

Fitzovich21 Jun 2020 3:09 a.m. PST

For me it is a tie between FDR and TR. Both were great leaders.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 3:55 a.m. PST

No it doesn't plus he did not win World War II.

So – the USA lost ?

I feel like the man in the high castle…..

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 8:03 a.m. PST

I think Mithmee is trying to point out that being on the winning side is not synonymous with winning the war. Did Charles de Gaulle win WWII? How about my father, who was a WWII petty officer in the USN? (We can do the New Deal, but this really isn't the appropriate forum.)

For me, TR was an American--first, last and always. He could tangle with the trusts and not forget that we were all Americans together. FDR had a tendency to prefer foreign friends to domestic critics, and I'm not always impressed by his taste in friends foreign or domestic.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 10:01 a.m. PST

Have to agree with the overall thread – FDR was a great man, but not as great as Teddy

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 10:31 a.m. PST

Did Charles de Gaulle win WWII?

Oh, I think we all know the answer to that one.

de Gaulle was not noted for his modesty.

USAFpilot In the TMP Dawghouse22 Jun 2020 6:43 a.m. PST

Looks like TR is very well liked here on TMP. Not so much in NYC, where his statue is being taken down because it symbolizes American colonialism. The lunatics are running the asylum.

HansPeterB Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2020 10:51 a.m. PST

Well, the statue does either symbolize colonialism, if the two subordinate figures represent continents, or simple racism, if they just represent "lesser races." I think its the composition that offends people rather than TR per se. It's a statue created for the museum back in 1930 or thereabouts, when TR's belief in the manifest superiority of white Anglo-Saxons and his support for American colonial aspirations were both perfectly acceptable. But times change, and so do museum displays. TR has a lot to his credit that are worth celebrating and memorializing, and perhaps we should focus on that. At the same time, though, we should not forget that even for his time some of his views were a little strange -- his enthusiastic support for negative eugenics (compulsory sterilization of "undesirables") for example. -- hpb

USAFpilot In the TMP Dawghouse23 Jun 2020 11:42 a.m. PST

Not much love for 4 term president FDR?

I guess the New Deal and winning WWII doesn't count for much….

Under his watch, thousands of loyal Japanese Americans were unjustly put in internment camps. As long as we are being woke and all.

Personal logo COL Scott ret Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2020 11:03 p.m. PST

The "New Deal" would be the top reason to NOT vote for FDR.

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