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Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2026 8:58 a.m. PST

I see that Sinner got 16 Oscar nominations. Most ever.
I saw the movie and I liked it. It was well done. But it not that great to deserve the most nominations ever. I also can say it did have a "white people are bad, black people are good" vibe to it.

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2026 1:47 p.m. PST

It was visually impressive and reasonably entertaining. Certainly not worthy of that many plaudits.

I think the vibe is deeper than a simple good/bad dichotomy. Given the setting is a rural Mississippi sharecropping community in the 1930s (and is told from the view of the black characters), there aren't many white characters to begin with. This reflects the fact that segregation wasn't just about laws but about life. The twins only interact with Hogwood to buy the sawmill. They are unaware or indifferent to his KKK status. My take is the latter; they don't care because business is business. He, in turn, is happy to sell to them because he plans to attack later. Bert and Joan (the only other white characters) don't interact with any black characters until they become vampires. They are also KKK and, crucially, their prejudice dooms them when the Choctaw try to save them.

The twins are violent gangsters. Their plan is to set up a juke joint for the local black community. Note that this is not a public service, but a money making scheme. They are looking to extract income from their impoverished patrons by selling liquor and entertainment. Remember also the disagreement between them when one patron wants to pay with scrip. One twin insists on cash only, indifferent to the circumstances of the patrons.

Remmick is white, but without racial prejudice. Quite the opposite. He speaks in an all-inclusive, quasi class-warfare way. Of course he's a vampire, so ultimately he doesn't give his victims a choice and to join his "utopia" you have to die/lose your soul.

The Chows are interesting. I thought it was a bit too on-the-nose for Coogler to have Asian shopowners in a predominantly black community. They own separate stores for white and black customers, which complied with the law but was also an excellent business opportunity. They eagerly join the twins as suppliers for the juke.

So what does this mean? There are many kinds of vampires. Some are purely predatory, some fill a need, but they all drain their victims.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2026 8:46 a.m. PST

Not having seen the show as it doesn't interest me – KKK vampires ???

But there were and still are a large number of Asians (specifically Chinese) in the Mississippi Delta. The late Lori Brom told of the first time Larry and she went to a wargame in the Delta. They stopped at a roadside convenience store to ask directions. The Chinese guys there were dressed in traditional Chinese outfits, but when they answered, it was in a definite Mississippi Southern drawl.

Jim

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2026 9:01 a.m. PST

The vampires are not KKK, quite the opposite. They embrace all races and creeds. It could be interpreted as a jab that certain socio-political movements that promote equality do so at the cost of constituent cultural identities. Or not? Coogler seems to be big on shining a light on everyone's faults and foibles, but less in a humanizing way and more in an "everybody sucks" way. I felt the same about Black Panther.

The Choctaw (who appear briefly) come out looking good, as well as one or two characters, but everyone else is portrayed as a literal or figurative vampire.

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