"FDA warning for Ivermectin" Topic

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reiterated a warning against the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment amid growing reports of individuals taking the drug often used to treat parasitic worms in animals…

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"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it."

It's amazing how many morons would rather take aquarium cleaners, oil of poisonous plants, bleach etc than something approved by SCIENCE. Oh noes! It's da Gubmint trying to put chips in us and pollute our precious bodily fluids!
If anyone is offended at being called a moron, ok. You're an omodhaun.
Go buy a pillow from that lunatic.

Have a nice day.

there are two types of Ivermectin. One for animals, which humans should not take and one for humans that doctors have been giving to covid patients for months.

When I got covid, my doctor, she immediate started me on ivermectin. I was better in 2 days. One week later on a follow up, no covid. Felt bad for about 2 days, fever, congestion. Then, covid free. Yes I have the antibodies which will last me longer than the jabs, at least what the CDC and CEO Pfizer tells us.

My oldest daughter got Covid last December. She was sick for three days and lost her sense of taste and smell for a few weeks. A lot of people who get it only have mild symptoms as I suspect may be your case. Anecdotal accounts are not reliable. I would go with the CDC or FDA any day.

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why discount what is happening across this country. Doctors, Doctors…let me say that again in case you missed it, doctors are treating people with ivermectin with success.

Why discount what happened to me? Where you there? Of course not, but you have an agenda so I must me wrong and discounted. You are not following the science.

Lancet, John Hopkins, Oxford, Cleveland Clinic and many other go to research hospitals question the CDC and FDA. The CDC is not mandating their people get the jab. Look it up. Pfizer CEO has refused to take the jab and was banned from Israel earlier this year. Maybe he has taken it by now, but what was he not leading the way?

Do I trust the CDC and FDA? Nope. Too many of my buddies got sick from Gulf war Syndrome from all the crap they got inject and they never served in country and were never by the burn pits. which the CDC and FDA said caused the syndrome. And lets not talk about how the CDC lied about agent orange.

Tuskegee Experiment also makes me question the CDC and the FDA. They are noted for lying.

Do you even know what is in the shots? Not too many do because no one asked and they won't tell you.

You want to blindly follow, go ahead. Take as many shots as you can survive. I will follow my doctors advice who told me not to take the jab and if I got covid she would take care of me. Amazing my doctor did.

My antibodies will last longer that the vaccine, which they now tell you you need boosters when they first told you a shot and you are safe. Then your not, then you get the shot but the unvacc can give you covid…….so the vacc does not work?

Understand, take the shot. I do not care. I tell people don't take the animal meds, that is stupid. But don't get full of yourself and try to discount me for your own good feelings.

I'm not discounting what happened to you. I'm saying it is irrelevant because there is no way to say that your outcome would have been any different if you had not taken the Ivermectin. Agenda? Is self preservation an agenda? Guilty as charged I guess. The science says the vaccine works so yeah follow the science. Pfizer Vaccine: The full list of ingredients for the Pfizer vaccine is:
mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium
phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose. Now what are the ingredients for Ivermectin? Full of myself? Where in hell do you get that from what I posted? Is it because I disagreed with you? Wow.

SEMBO had COVID. I got it about a week and half later.

This was in late Nov 2019, when the docs didn't know what it was. They took a throat culture and we were told to go home, isolate, drink lots of fluids, get some rest, and come back if it didn't go away in a couple of days. Standard flu stuff. We were both fevered, tired/achy, and congested for two days, then no lasting effects.

We found out it was COVID a month later after they retested her sample and confirmed with an antibody test on both of us.

So, unless you discount what happened to us, being treated with Invermectin has the same effectiveness as not being treated with Invermetcin.

Do you even know what is in the shots? Not too many do because no one asked and they won't tell you.

I got five pages on each shot, including links to the FDA trials and other studies before I got my vaccination, before I asked. SWMBO had to ask, amd got basically the same information.

Obviously you discount us as "no one".

So, can you provide the specific identities of the medical organization that won't provide the info if you ask for it? That's illegal and I know to whom you report them.

Davoust said:

Pfizer CEO has refused to take the jab and was banned from Israel earlier this year. Maybe he has taken it by now, but what was he not leading the way?

Fact Check says:

After the vaccines first became available in December, their distribution was left largely up to state governments, but for the most part they were made available to the most vulnerable populations first.

So Bourla had said in that interview that he would take the vaccine as soon as he could, but that he didn't want to set an example for "cutting the line" to get it earlier. He described himself as "59 years old, in good health … not working on the frontline," so he wasn't prioritized for the shot.

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Do I trust the CDC and FDA? Nope. Too many of my buddies got sick from Gulf war Syndrome from all the crap they got inject and they never served in country and were never by the burn pits. which the CDC and FDA said caused the syndrome.

So, there is no such thing as Gulf War Syndrome – it is a general term to refer to a number of different illnesses in personnel who deployed during the Gulf War:

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So no one at the CDC for FDA diagnosed anyone with it. Or anything else, as neither the CDC nor the FDA diagnose individual patients.

they first told you a shot and you are safe. Then your not, then you get the shot but the unvacc can give you covid

Care to provide a reference?

Google who makes Ivermectin. Google who owns that company. Continue. Oh, look, Bilderberg Group. It's Clintons all the way down.

JK.

Honestly, I wish people would just get the vaccine and wear masks, but considering how often the government lies I understand why people won't listen. We let the government get away with lying since before our parents were born, and now we need people to listen to the government and all they can think about is the USS Maine so they won't get the shot.

Curiously, if someone says, "The government is lying to you," people believe them, sure, and continue to believe them when they go on to say, "you don't need a demonstrably safe preventative, if you get sick you can take horse dewormer and you'll be fine."

If we start holding the government accountable maybe next time things will go smoother. Sure. Better, we convince people that just because someone lies a lot doesn't mean they lie every time. You just have to evaluate each thing they say.

The government does not lie, they just tell you what you need to know for your own good because they are so much smarter and wiser than us.

Wolfhag

Nah, for the last thrity years or so, the US government has been pretty good at providing access all the backing information, within classification limits. That's because they believe the public won't actually read it and just say whatever they want, pulling bits of what is actually said out of context.

Twitter and Facebook have been a boon for this.

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"The President of the Universe holds no real power. His sole purpose is to take attention away from where the power truly exists…"

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

there are two types of Ivermectin. One for animals, which humans should not take and one for humans that doctors have been giving to covid patients for months.

When I got covid, my doctor, she immediate started me on ivermectin. I was better in 2 days. One week later on a follow up, no covid. Felt bad for about 2 days, fever, congestion. Then, covid free. Yes I have the antibodies which will last me longer than the jabs, at least what the CDC and CEO Pfizer tells us.

Thank you for posting that. The key point being your doctor prescribed ivermectin to you. I would follow my doctors advice over the advise of the non-doctors on TMP who are simply regurgitating media talking points,

Just don't start mooing whenever you see a field of tall grass.

😂 I have to give you credit Tumbleweed; you have a good sense of humor.

My youngest and his wife are MD's (Emergency and Family Med respectively) in the Army. My oldest got out of the Army and took a job with Amazon at one of their bigger facilities as head of safety with his MS in Bio-chemistry. His wife has her PhD in Micro-Biology and works for the CDC. None have any financial interest in any drug or the vaccines and all in addition to being parents have a career interest in Covid solutions. Their opinions are that every reputable study of both Hydrochloriquine and Invermectin shows them to be generally ineffective and downright dangerous if self-administered (although anyone stupid enough to go to the Feed & Grain and take a horse dewormer needs to exit the gene pool) . It is worthwhile to explore the anecdotal claims and support the significant detailed studies of both drugs under way in the US and UK considering whether one or both could ameliorate the effects of Covid. Until those studies are in, the ideal solution is still vaccination both to reduce the chance of infection (break through infections are still very rare) and certainly to dramatically reduce the chance of mortality if infected (95%+ of the deaths are among the un-vaccinated).

I would follow my doctors advice over the advise of the non-doctors on TMP who are simply regurgitating media talking points,

Are you including yourself in that group of TMP non-doctors regurgitating talking points by any chance?

Head of Tokyo Medical Association says "now is the time" for all covid patients to get ivermectin, not vaccines

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The Story Of Ivermectin And COVID-19

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"Head of Tokyo Medical Association says "now is the time" for all covid patients to get ivermectin, not vaccines"

Trying to fact check this, I could find no articles by reputable media sources. There was a fact check that had a lot more detail and largely debunked this, but its also a fact check I have never heard of and hence dont trust. link

Juggling with test tubes of nitroglycerine has been shown to be capable of ending most illnesses……

(Caveat: the above advice is offered humerously and no-one should ever juggle test tubes of nitroglycerine. I feel that I shouldn't in a sensible world have to point this out but in this particular part of the multiverse sense seems to be taking a vacation).

Posting the same lie that ivermectin doesn't work over and over again doesn't make it true……….

Ivermectin: an award-winning drug with expected antiviral activity against COVID-19

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved broad-spectrum antiparasitic agent with demonstrated antiviral activity against a number of DNA and RNA viruses, including severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Despite this promise, the antiviral activity of ivermectin has not been consistently proven in vivo. While ivermectin's activity against SARS-CoV-2 is currently under investigation in patients, insufficient emphasis has been placed on formulation challenges. Here, we discuss challenges surrounding the use of ivermectin in the context of coronavirus disease-19 (COVID-19) and how novel formulations employing micro- and nanotechnologies may address these concerns.

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Posting the same lie that ivermectin does work over and over again doesn't make it true……….

To be clear:

Ivermectin has not been approved for use by the US Food and Drug Administration.

The agency's website says: "FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing Covid-19 in humans.

"Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an antiviral (a drug for treating viruses). Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm."

To be very clear – Covid is not a parasitic worm. Nor is Covid the same as head-lice. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral. Covid is a Virus.

There is a large scale study of Ivermection going on right now in the UK. There is a very large scale study of Hydrochloriquine being conducted by NIH. No major study to date shows efficacy but no major study has concluded.
The simple facts are that the overwhelming majority of medical professionals and world health authorities are fine with studying the possible additions to the Covid arsenal and generally medically prescribed human approved dose levels can do no harm BUT, not as an alternative to the proven success of vaccines in significantly decreasing transmission and massively increasing survival.

Natural News appears to be in the way out category of tin foil hat sites and is literally lunatic in its' misinformation about vaccines including the articles in the same link that says the world will be divided into the superbeings unvaccinated and the damaged/mutant vaccinated.

The credibility of Natural News founder and owner seems pretty shaky with any Google search. Also banned on Facebook for spamming.
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As far as I can tell, the Tokyo doctor is advocating for Invermectin. I cannot find him downplaying vaccines.

Brian C Joonbeth M.D. : "Ivermectin was FDA approved in 1998 under the brand name Stromectol, produced by pharmaceutical giant Merck, approved for several parasitic infections. The product label described it as having a "unique mode of action," which "leads to an increase in the permeability of the cell membrane to chloride ions." This suggests that ivermectin acts as an ionophore, making cell membranes permeable to ions that enter the cell for therapeutic effect."
"Ivermectin is one of several ionophores, others including hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, and resveratrol, the latter two available over the counter. These ionophores simply open a cellular door, allowing zinc to enter the cell, where it then interferes with viral replication, providing potential therapeutic benefit in viral and other infections."

The WHO, world health organization, is controlled by China. Google, Facebook, YouTube constantly censor. Twitter bans a US President but allows terrorists. All msm is controlled by a few individuals, most lean left and have ties to one political party. link Big tech and big pharma look out for their interests, not yours,

There have been no long term studies on mRNA vaccines in humans.

The "science" once said:
- DDT was safe for humans
- Asbestos was a miracle mineral
- the Earth was the center of the solar system

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Under covid tyranny, US hospitals have become MURDER FACTORIES where ivermectin is forbidden because it saves lives

Across the United States, hospitals have been transformed into murder factories where people are falsely "diagnosed" with covid via a fraudulent PCR test, then put on miscalibrated, made-in-China ventilators that blow out their lungs and kill them. Safe and effective medical interventions that actually save lives among covid victims — such as ivermectin — are strictly prohibited in nearly every hospital in the country, obviously as part of a malicious medical scheme to exterminate as many patients as possible to drive up the "pandemic" death numbers…

"obviously as part of a malicious medical scheme to exterminate as many patients as possible to drive up the "pandemic" death numbers."
It's all one vast conspiracy eh?

It's not accurate to say that China controls the WHO.

The USA gives 10 times as much (15 times if you include Bill & Melinda Gates' contribution). The Rotarians give twice as much as China, whose contribution is on a par with Sweden (big ups Sweden! ).

Top 20 Funding Contibuters are:

Contributor Funding received US$ million
United States of America 853
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland 464
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation 455
GAVI Alliance 389
Germany 359
UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) 286
Japan 234
European Commission 213
Rotary International 168
National Philanthropic Trust 116
UN Central Emergency Response 100
Kuwait 95
World Bank 95
Norway 93
China 89
Canada 87
Sweden 87
Republic of Korea 72
Australia 71
France 71

Across the United States, hospitals have been transformed into murder factories where people are falsely "diagnosed" with covid via a fraudulent PCR test, then put on miscalibrated, made-in-China ventilators that blow out their lungs and kill them

Wow.

Do you really believe that? I might be tempted to make the suggestion of getting medical help…but that would involve seeing a Doctor (or as you have defined it – a psycopathic conspiracy murderer).

Safe and effective medical interventions that actually save lives among covid victims — such as ivermectin — are strictly prohibited in nearly every hospital in the country, obviously as part of a malicious medical scheme to exterminate as many patient

Err…but you also say that "doctors" suggest using ivermectin – but they are part of the evil murdering medical conspiracy, according to your very own post.

This conspiracy is somewhat akin to Swiss Cheese – it's full of 'oles.

No light at either end of that rabbit hole.

obviously as part of a malicious medical scheme to exterminate as many patients as possible to drive up the "pandemic" death numbers.

This is simply a cut and paste from a different website than Natural News but run by the very same anti-science conspiracy non-medical quack, Mike Adams (living in Ecuador on the run from numerous lawsuits) running websites including Natural News, Health Ranger, Brighteon and many more making a living hawking nostrums to the gullible. Different names, same guy, same anti-vax crazy. To quote the Genetic Literacy Project," even quacks think he's a quack." He is anti anything genetic and has a long running loathing of GMO's apparently unaware that virtually every food is technically a GMO (thank you Gregor Mendel). He also opposes all chemotherapy ,all vaccines and dealing with climate change. He is kind of a full circle guy where the extreme right and left can come together embracing troglodytic distrust of progress with a Luddites hatred of science.

Snopes.com is always fun, type in anything such as Mike Adams or Natural News and be amazed at the breathtakingly whacky stuff. My favorite being an apparent cluelessness as to how mRNA vaccines work.

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And he has been a long term anti-science guy. No Johnny come lately to crazy for this guy.

Like 2015 When per Mike Adams, Biotech terrorists poisoned Chipotle's food for daring to use non-GMO stuff.

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It's not accurate to say that China controls the WHO.

That's not the point. It's not the money, it's the fact that China is better at pushing their agenda, getting the WHO to do what they want.

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A very accurate article from the Washington Examiner, a conservative outlet, about Ivermectin and its' value or lack thereof in treating Covid.

getting the WHO to do what they want.

China or anyone else per se does not get the WHO to do what they want. China as with everyone else, has the ability to tell the WHO whatever they want within their borders, as can every member state. Thus China tells the WHO to pound salt when they ask for Wuhan Lab data or visits and the WHO is powerless to compel anything.

That's not the point. It's not the money, it's the fact that China is better at pushing their agenda, getting the WHO to do what they want.

Well : "money talks and bleep bleep walks" as they say. China is a tiny contributor, and when setting policy I doubt they carry the highest weight in discussions.

But we can agree to disagree.

I can't believe USAAFPilot posted that article, as ridiculously biased clickbait as it was…

Damon.

Really? It's perfectly consistent with most of the other 'science based' stuff he posts.

Ivermectin in Adults With Severe COVID-19.

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Brief Summary:

Since the onset of the disease, more than 40.5 million people have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and nearly 1.2 million people have died (October 21, 2020). There is no complete understanding of the pathogenesis of SARS-CoV-2 infection and to this day there is no specific therapy or vaccine available. Thus, patient care is based on symptomatic therapy and treatment of complications.

Ivermectin has been used for more than 30 years for the treatment of several diseases. More than one million doses of the drug are administered daily, particularly in low- and middle-income countries. Due to the low prevalence of adverse events with the use of this drug, ivermectin is considered to have a good safety profile and its potential benefit in other diseases is currently under investigation.

An in vitro study of ivermectin in SARS-CoV-2 in Australia showed a significant reduction of viral load in infected cells. Subsequently, a descriptive study of 704 critical patients with COVID-19 showed a reduction in mortality, hospitalization, and intensive care unit length-of-stay in those patients who received the drug. Unfortunately, this study was withdrawn by its authors, leaving more questions than answers.

Since there is no specific treatment for COVID-19 and the therapeutic options are scarce, the researchers believe it is completely plausible, urgent, and necessary to evaluate if ivermectin use reduces the risk of admission to an intensive care unit (ICU) in hospitalized adults with severe COVID-19. The proposal is a randomized, double-blind clinical trial, conducted at CES Clinic, Medellin-Colombia. The investigators will randomize 100 patients with severe, non-critical illness, into two groups, one group will receive ivermectin in addition to standard management and the other group will receive placebo plus standard management. Clinical outcomes to evaluate will be ICU admission, need for mechanical ventilation, length of hospital stay, days in the ICU and mechanical ventilation, and finally, the incidence of adverse events related to the intervention. The estimated time to complete the study is approximately five months.

Ivermectin as a multifaceted drug in COVID-19: Current insights (not just for de-worming)
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Let's hope for something positive out of this. I think the FDA is approving it for compassionate use too.

Wolfhag