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Martin From Canada23 Feb 2021 8:15 p.m. PST

President Joe Biden has ordered enough vaccines to immunize every American against COVID-19, and his administration says it's using the full force of the federal government to get the doses by July. There's a reason he can't promise them sooner.

Vaccine supply chains are extremely specialized and sensitive, relying on expensive machinery, highly trained staff and finicky ingredients. Manufacturers have run into intermittent shortages of key materials, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office; the combination of surging demand and workforce disruptions from the pandemic has caused delays of four to 12 weeks for items that used to ship within a week, much like what happened when consumers were sent scrambling for household staples like flour, chicken wings and toilet paper.
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People often question why the administration can't use the mighty Defense Production Act — which empowers the government to demand critical supplies before anyone else — to turbocharge production. But that law has its limits. Each time a manufacturer adds new equipment or a new raw materials supplier, they are required to run extensive tests to ensure the hardware or ingredients consistently work as intended, then submit data to the Food and Drug Administration. Adding capacity "doesn't happen in a blink of an eye," said Jennifer Pancorbo, director of industry programs and research at North Carolina State University's Biomanufacturing Training and Education Center. "It takes a good chunk of weeks."

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PzGeneral24 Feb 2021 5:53 a.m. PST

Why does it matter? John Hopkins University predicts it will all be over by April.

As reported by The Wall Street Journal:
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Besides, the COVID Antibodies only last 3-5 moths:.

As reported in Healthline:
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Martin From Canada24 Feb 2021 8:56 a.m. PST

As reported by The Wall Street Journal:
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1) That's not reporting, that opinion.
2) Glosses over the change in travel patterns since January does not have the mass-gatherings of Christmas and New Year's Eve.
3) He's not an expert in infectious disease (big red flag – why couldn't Rupert Murdoch's rag find an epidemiologist or infectious disease expert rather than a random MD (pancreatic surgeon with expertise in surgery and obesity)?


Besides, the COVID Antibodies only last 3-5 moths:.

yes, and you still have other mechanisms in the body to retain memory of the infection. For example you have B-cells that will ramp out anti-bodies to a renewed infection.

USAFpilot25 Feb 2021 4:47 p.m. PST

This experimental "vaccine" will not necessarily protect you from getting COVID. This "vaccine" will not prevent you from spreading the virus. A virus that so far 99.95% of Americans have survived. By the way, I'm not an anti vaccer; just not sure I'm going to get this one.

Cerdic27 Feb 2021 11:22 a.m. PST

Well Israel has vaccinated nearly 50% of their population. This gives the first real-world mass data. This has shown the Pfizer-BioNtec vaccine is about 90% effective at preventing people becoming ill with Covid19.

Importantly, it reduces the number of people hospitalised by 90%, which will ease the pressure on health services the world over.

Sounds pretty worthwhile to me…

USAFpilot28 Feb 2021 9:10 a.m. PST

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The scary red numbers are all going down. Check any newspaper or covid tracking website you want. Cases. Deaths. Hospitalisations. They're all going down, sharply, and have been for weeks, especially in the US and UK.

So, why would that be?

Pundits across the media world have made suggestions – from vaccines to lockdowns – but there's only one that makes any real sense.

IT'S NOT VACCINES
The assumption most people would make, and would be encouraged to make by the talking heads and media experts, is that the various "vaccines" have taken effect and stopped the spread of the "virus".

Is this the case? No, no it's not.

The decline started in mid-January, far too early for any vaccination program to have any effect. Many experts said as much:

Dr. Wafaa El-Sadr, professor of epidemiology and medicine at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health, said the falling case numbers can't be attributed to the COVID-19 vaccine, because not even a tenth of the population has been vaccinated, according to the CDC.
Further, the drop is happening simultaneously in different countries all around the world, and not every country is vaccinating at the same rate or even using the same vaccine. So no, the "vaccines" are not causing the drop.

IT'S NOT LOCKDOWN EITHER
Another suspect is the lockdown, with blaring propaganda stating that all the various government-imposed house arrests and "distancing" measures have finally had an impact.

That's not it either.

Sweden, famously, never locked down at all. Yet their "cases" and "Covid related deaths" have been dropping exactly in parallel with the UK:

Clearly, if countries that never locked down are also seeing declines in case numbers, the lockdown cannot be causing them.

So what is?

The global decline in "Covid deaths" starts in mid-to-late January.

What else happened around that time?

Well, on January 13th the WHO published a memo regarding the problem of asymptomatic cases being discovered by PCR tests, and suggesting any asymptomatic positive tests be repeated.

This followed up their previous memo, instructing labs around the world to use lower cycle thresholds (CT values) for PCR tests, as values over 35 could produce false positives.

Essentially, in two memos the WHO ensured future testing would be less likely to produce false positives and made it much harder to be labelled an "asymptomatic case".

In short, logic would suggest we're not in fact seeing a "decline in Covid cases" or a "decrease in Covid deaths" at all.

What we're seeing is a decline in perfectly healthy people being labelled "covid cases" based on a false positive from an unreliable testing process. And we're seeing fewer people dying of pneumonia, cancer or other disease have "Covid19" added to their death certificate based on testing criteria designed to inflate the pandemic.

Repiqueone28 Feb 2021 8:06 p.m. PST

So a worthless article, written by a person hiding behind a fictional.monicker, quoting " facts" that have no basis or scientific support is your idea of a great source??? Not to mention that a variety of tests and thresholds are used in many nations. No one has any interest in inaccurate tests. To suggest that they do requires a massive belief in conspiracies and falsehoods.

The most likely explanation is that the uptick was attributable in the US and elsewhere to people not observing good practices during the multiple holidays and increased travel early in the year. This occurred either from ignorance, political stupidity, or extreme poverty. Thie explosion of cases eventually triggered increased vigilance and started to bring the numbers down. Though the vaccines will have a growing effect, we must hope that the refusenik deniers among us don't have a counter-effect that will allow the virus to evolve into too many mutant forms that we can't stop them all.

This recurring lie about deliberately falsified numbers is shameful.

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2021 6:56 a.m. PST

I'm with Cerdic on this one. Just get the vaccine. Don't worry, it won't hurt.

Barin112 Mar 2021 6:23 a.m. PST

Our company is involved in supplying equipment for vaccine production. The demand is huge, so is the queue for the products. It is already 2 years long for some of them. The vaccines are (mostly) produced at the same plants where other sterile injection drugs are being made, and some of them are also life-saving, you can't just switch them to different products.
We do see that various regulations and policies are revised to make the production chain faster, but still there's a lot of reasons why big pharma companies are not making the required N's of doses. They do make a lot of money, though.
If I was working in pharma branch of the company, I'd be very happy, working for common refinery/polymers/chenicals ondustry is not looking so attractive now ;)

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