"Will The Covid-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Trigger Massive" Topic

… Societal Shifts?

"Before March of this year, few probably thought disease could be a significant driver of human history.

Not so anymore. People are beginning to understand that the little changes COVID-19 has already ushered in or accelerated – telemedicine, remote work, social distancing, the death of the handshake, online shopping, the virtual disappearance of cash and so on – have begun to change their way of life. They may not be sure whether these changes will outlive the pandemic. And they may be uncertain whether these changes are for good or ill.

Three previous plagues could yield some clues about the way COVID-19 might bend the arc of history. As I teach in my course "Plagues, Pandemics and Politics," pandemics tend to shape human affairs in three ways…"

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We are becoming Vulcans with emotion still active. 😂

It will trigger a massive shift of computer-related jobs from the U.S. to overseas locations.

Once the reality sinks in (if it hasn't already) that there is no point in reporting to an "office" every day, business will outsource everything.

Now if I could only convince the dinosaurs that I work with that travel for in person meetings is unnecessary. Will be fun trying to find a flight with all the airline layoffs so I can sit in an airplane with a bunch of COVID zombies.

We have wrecked the economy all for a flu that has a 99% survival rate. Big tech and the msm must be so proud; anything to win is their view.

The fundamentals of the US economy remain sound.

Airlines will probably not recover for another 2+ years as they must adjust to a significant and permanent change in business travel as many firms have discovered many/most in person trips, particularly in person internal meetings, were not needed or even helpful. This will have ripple effects on rental cars, hospitality and higher end restaurants. All these businesses will have to shift to attracting a higher percentage of leisure travel and that will in part, drive competition through cost and quality.

Downtown class A real estate for offices will likely never come back but it was essentially an outdated concept. Covid simply accelerated an inevitable trend as it did with brick and mortar retail.

It will trigger a massive shift of computer-related jobs from the U.S. to overseas locations.

The US simply does not produce enough computer science related skill sets right now and Tech is desperate for trained personnel from wherever. While I do agree there will be increased use of overseas resources, there is a global shortage of such workers and demand will keep anyone in the US with the skills needed employed. The best thing the US could do is pull those workers into the US using the HB visa program and recruit them into citizenship.

Restaurant and other service sectors are the biggest unknown. 70% acceptance from a proven vaccine should pretty well eliminate the societal impacts of Covid but questions about short circuiting the testing process for political purposes seems to have undercut public confidence. An effective and safe vaccine is an answer for a return to whatever 'new normal' will be but a perfectly safe and effective vaccine is useless without 70%+ of the populace willing to take it.

Between Covid's teleworking effect and rage mobs the downtown areas have become far less attractive. Businesses and people of means will move out. De-gentrification will follow and decay will return.

All because of an over reaction to a disease that has directly killed, in the US according to revised cdc figures, a little over 12,000 people. Not even a really bad flu season.

Plus . You can't ignore that fact.

revised cdc figures

Here is a link to the Actual CDC site.
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The CDC has not revised their figures to that number.

Can you provide a link to an official government CDC or NIH site showing that?

The number I see on their sites is 210,000 which means in the eight months since the original outbreak, more Americans have died than in the past 5 years of flu combined. That number works out to 867 per day or 5+ fully loaded 737's crashing each and every day.

"According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."

250,000 due to medical malpractice, and yet complete silence from the lying msm.

That study was originally released in May of 2016 so looking for it in October 2020 seems a bit specious but….

And yet that particular story can be found as having been reported by all of the MSM including Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and NY and LA Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and the Chicago Tribune.

The CDC, FDA and NIH, all under the direction of the current administration and President have chosen not to list medical malpractice as among the standard causes of death but that may change subject to added study. It should be noted that annualized it would be the fourth leading cause of death as Covid will pass 250,000 annually fairly easily.

It should also be noted that those particular entities are owned by relatively moderate to conservative entities such as the Disney Companies (ABC), Viacom (CBS), NBC (Comcast – a big DJT supporter), CNN (AT&T/Warner Media), The Washington Post(Amazon), The Wall Street Journal (Rupert Murdoch-Fox Corp), The NY Times (Ochs-Sulzberger families), the LA Times (Patrick Soon-Shiong – billionaire biotech guy who also owns the very conservative San Diego paper) and Fox News )Rupert Murdoch). All of these are multi-billion dollar entities with generally moderate to conservative public stances and hardly radicals.

While it is accurate to consider most mainstream, on the ground, journalists somewhat left of center it is a pretty good bet that if Fox and the Wall Street Journal are carrying a story, it is also on the rest. It is called the Mainstream because that is exactly what it is. It should also be noted that unlike social media or opinion pieces, the hard news sides of the entities are subject to constant fact checking.

The msm is extremely biased to the far left. They have long since given up on reporting the news in an unbiased matter of fact format. Instead it is all made up opinion news full of emotion and embellishments.

Looks like someone got paid off …

"Will The Covid-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Trigger Massive…"

Apparently not in China, though …

"China has moved on. China is no longer afraid of risks of COVID19. They have removed all of their restrictions"

425M travelled in China in 4d
No lockdowns. No restrictions
No social distancing
No asymptomatic testing

Why is western world living in fear?

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I often wonder if some of you actually read what you post, or are you just going for comic relief?
You believe that???

Well, I'm going to have to guess you may be referring to my link (but it could be for anything as it's not referenced).

I often wonder if people just react without actually reading (or in this case watching).

What is written is a simple summary of the news report shown – but one has to watch the news report (and listen) to know that.

Do you think the video shown and the commentary is fabricated? Like a conspiracy theory of faked moon landings?!

I wish I thought "they" ("some of you" as you put it) were doing it for comic relief but it's just sad.

@USAFpilot:

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That number is due to an incorrect reading of the data. From Dr David Gorski's blogpost on SBM.

So let's say that this study's estimates of how many people die from AEMTs and, in particular, from medical misadventure, are better estimates than the "third leading cause of death" studies. (I happen to think that it is, even if it might have somewhat underestimated AEMTs.) Does that mean there's no problem? Of course not, one death from medical error is too many. Roughly 5,200 deaths a year from AEMT and 108,000 deaths in which an AEMT was contributory are too many. However, we do no one other than quacks any favors by grossly exaggerating the scope of the problem, and several lines of evidence show that deaths due to AEMTs are decreasing modestly, not skyrocketing, as the "death by medicine" crowd would have you believe. We can do better. We should do better. We won't do better by spreading myths that medical errors are the third leading cause of death.

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That 12000 people who died "only of covid" are basically incorrectly filled in death certificates.

From Dr. David Gorksi's blog:

For example, if a patient dies of respiratory failure due to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), which was the result of pneumonia, which was the result of COVID-19, the proximal cause of death was the respiratory failure, but contributing causes were ARDS and COVID-19, with the one farthest up the chain being the underlying cause of death under Part I. If the patient had hypertension or asthma, that would go under Part II. As I like to say, if you suffer a cardiac arrest due to blood loss after being shot, the cardiac arrest might have been the proximal cause of death, but you still died of a gunshot wound.
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Sometimes these underlying causes contribute to the death. For example, if you have hemophilia and suffer a stab wound that leads you to bleed out and die when someone with normal blood clotting probably would have survived, then you still died of a stab wound, but the hemophilia was a contributing cause of death. link