 Editor in Chief Bill   | 24 Mar 2020 8:55 a.m. PST |
…A new analysis of SARS-CoV-2 may finally put that latter idea to bed. A group of researchers compared the genome of this novel coronavirus with the seven other coronaviruses known to infect humans: SARS, MERS and SARS-CoV-2, which can cause severe disease; along with HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E, which typically cause just mild symptoms, the researchers wrote March 17 in the journal Nature Medicine."Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus," they write in the journal article… link |
| Mithmee | 24 Mar 2020 9:24 a.m. PST |
They wouldn't happen to be researchers from China. Maybe it not and maybe it was. Plus what changes/mutations has it gone through since the Fall of 2019? That is the thing about viruses they change over time and if it makes the right change/mutation they can go from being mild to deadly really quick. |
| Martin From Canada | 24 Mar 2020 11:35 a.m. PST |
You know, you could click on the link in that article. At the bottom of the Nature paper:
link From the Nature article:
Affiliations Department of Immunology and Microbiology, The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, CA, USA
Kristian G. Andersen Scripps Research Translational Institute, La Jolla, CA, USA
Kristian G. Andersen Institute of Evolutionary Biology, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK
Andrew Rambaut Center for Infection and Immunity, Mailman School of Public Health of Columbia University, New York, NY, USA
W. Ian Lipkin Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity, School of Life and Environmental Sciences and School of Medical Sciences, The University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia
Edward C. Holmes Tulane University, School of Medicine, Department of Microbiology and Immunology, New Orleans, LA, USA
Robert F. Garry Zalgen Labs, Germantown, MD, USA
Robert F. Garry But you're just going to move on to the next pointless question… |
 StoneMtnMinis  | 24 Mar 2020 11:51 a.m. PST |
If-then works great in computer programing, not so much in proving virus tendencies. Also, a lot of their assumptions are based on information released by Communist China. Not the best source of truth. |
| Asteroid X | 24 Mar 2020 11:58 a.m. PST |
Martin, please try to keep the personal attacks off this board. We are all trying to be courteous. Just because someone does not agree with your personal point of view, that is no reason to attack them. Go outside, take a walk, go for a bike ride, go jogging. Get some exercise and blow off some "steam". |
| Martin From Canada | 24 Mar 2020 12:28 p.m. PST |
Also, a lot of their assumptions are based on information released by Communist China. Not the best source of truth. Genetic testing has gotten so cheap and easy to do that this can be replicated in any moderately sized university lab in a matter of hours to days. The CPC and PRC (debatable if there's a functional difference there) have zero to gain, and much to loose getting caught doing that. The real world isn't some Hollywood thriller. |
| Editor in Chief Bill | 24 Mar 2020 1:04 p.m. PST |
…The real world isn't some Hollywood thriller. And a Communist dictatorship that is still persecuting journalists is not the best source of truth. |
| Martin From Canada | 24 Mar 2020 3:02 p.m. PST |
And a Communist dictatorship that is still persecuting journalists is not the best source of truth. I never said they were. I just said that this is the equivalent of saying that the sky is blue and sunny in the middle of a blizzard. It's too easy to disprove. |
| Dan Cyr | 24 Mar 2020 3:08 p.m. PST |
Occam's razor, guys, Occam's razor. Dan |
| Mithmee | 24 Mar 2020 8:11 p.m. PST |
Oh I fine it interesting that instead to trying to cure this they went out of their way to state that China did not create this. Oh and China has a lot to gain and they do not care if they get caught because what are you going to do to them? Answer… Nothing They are attempting to cover things up and to lay blame elsewhere. Also where have the last three major virus come from? Answer… China YouTube link |
| Dan Cyr | 25 Mar 2020 1:57 p.m. PST |
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'". - Isaac Asimov |
| Martian Root Canal | 27 Mar 2020 11:09 p.m. PST |
Not being a laboratory construct or genetically-mutated virus does not rule out using a virus or disease as a weapon. Mankind has been doing it for millennia. Do I think that this is what happened? No. Do I think that the world lost precious time while China withheld and downplayed what was happening in Wuhan? Yes. |
| Martian Root Canal | 27 Mar 2020 11:28 p.m. PST |
And as for Asimov, what happens when the proponents of said 'knowledge' have a political or personal motive? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? For a relevant example, the World Health Organization comes to mind, with the Director-General's close ties to China and WHO's initial attempts to downplay what was going on (including public statements by Tedros as late as Jan 17). It wasn't until March 11 that the WHO declared this a pandemic. Knowledge withheld by so-called experts is not knowledge at all. It's politics. Hard to see this as anti-intellectualism and ignorance. |
