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Patrick R06 Mar 2019 1:49 p.m. PST

It's an OK film, not great, a somewhat slow middle, but picks up the pace in the third part where most of the good stuff finally happens. Larson is supposed to play this professional space soldier so she's not really phased by anything she comes across, but it also makes her character a bit flat though that also comes together near the end.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik06 Mar 2019 4:18 p.m. PST

I'm going to heed James Woods' call and see Alita instead… jk.

Mithmee06 Mar 2019 6:16 p.m. PST

Probably going to pass on this one.

OldGrenadier at work07 Mar 2019 5:35 a.m. PST

I want to see both.

Bowman07 Mar 2019 5:59 a.m. PST

I'm going to heed James Woods' call and see Alita instead… jk.

I think you mean James Cameron, the writer of the film. James Woods is an actor.

I want to see both.

The opposite with me. I've sworn off comic book movies.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2019 6:26 a.m. PST

I want to see Captain Marvel, but Alita I passed on as it looked even worse than Ghost in the Shell.

I have had it confirmed by one who's judgement I value that Alita is one of the worst films they'd ever seen.

Oppiedog07 Mar 2019 7:08 a.m. PST

James Woods (the actor) posted some comments on the film recently. For me, I'm a pass.

Old Wolfman07 Mar 2019 7:49 a.m. PST

So he escaped from that crate again? ;^)

Winston Smith07 Mar 2019 8:46 a.m. PST

I read a feminist review that said "At last, women get their own mediocre superhero movie."

I view the current obsession with superhero movies very much like I view current "country" music.
Much better stuff has been done in the past.

Seriously though…
The pinheads at the Academy kind of had the right idea with the very soon dropped category of Most Popular Movie. Last year, Black Panther would have won hands down. It was a well done feel good movie.
Captain Marvel will give women their very own long sought (really?) Marvel superhero movie. I hope it's well done.
DC beat them to the punch with Wonder Woman. Damning with faint praise, I thought it was a well done superhero origins movie. I thought Gal Gadot was smoking hot, but that's kinda the point, isn't it? Women think the same about Thor and Cap'.

I'll watch Captain Marvel when it comes on Netflix or HBO. I'll probably enjoy it, but much to the chagrin of Spielberg, I prefer the home experience. Popcorn is cheaper, and I can have a beer too.

Winston Smith07 Mar 2019 8:49 a.m. PST

Alita? Never heard of it, so I looked it up.
…..
Seriously? I'll pass.

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2019 12:24 p.m. PST

All of the major studios should thank their lucky stars for "Ghost in the Shell". I could make an Adam Sandler movie a possible Best Picture Oscar winner.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2019 6:40 p.m. PST

This one's a DVDer for me, checked out from my library.

I *like* superhero movies, but the last Avenger's movie was so incredibly dumb (see SPOILER below, if you're interested), that I'm having a hard time getting jazzed for the follow up (which has a resolution so obvious that I'm stunned nobody knows exactly what's going to happen already. I do. They telegraphed so much they might as well have written it out and stuck as the first line of the credits). So this movie and A:IW2 I will see for completeness's sake.

I did love Spider-Man:Homecoming, which had the best surprise plot twist moment (and resulting scene) that I have seen in a movie in a long, long time.

AVENGERS SPOILERS BELOW. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Why it was dumb:
Thor in this film was changed into a complete dolt. He's had some slow moments before, but in this one, he was practically lobotomized. No wonder Loki always tricked him in the past.
And then he makes the line about "restarting a neutron star." Okay, yes, it's a comic book movie, but that is so mindnumblingly ignorant a statement that I can't fathom how anybody could even write such a thing and proudly call himself a "good screenwriter."
Banner/Hulk character completely changed. In the first Avengers film, Banner was intelligent, controlled, and very much a man willing to take action, trapped with a curse he feared but held determinedly in check. In this film (and the lead-in Thor movie), he became a whiny nebbish and complete klutz— a dork's dork so annoying you wanted the Hulk to come out just so Banner would GO AWAY. But then it would have been whiny ‘fraidy Hulk, so maybe it's no loss.
And here's the biggie: All of this is for a Gauntlet that Thanos wears on his hand. And they're all trying to PULL the gauntlet off, or kill Thanos, when all they have to do is CUT OFF THE HAND. Geez, Thor WHAT KIND OF IDIOT ARE YOU not to figure that out? You axe will CUT Thanos, so hit him there, you giant Nordic dolt! For that matter, one of Strange's portals will do the same thing.
And now for the big obvious resolution clue: The Stone of TIme. They're gonna reprise Strange's time spell to go back in time and take back the stones… or it's even possible that Strange *never* actually gave Thanos the Stone of Time, but whipped up a copy (or a future/past copy). In any case, the whole time-travel reset is obvious. Oh, yeah, they'll muck about with a bunch of side-trip side-show action, but that will be the resolution to the whole thing.
And we'll leave off the "everybody charge straight at everybody else, tactical maneuvering be damned" fight scenes that have now stupidly become part of every superhero team movie. That's just passé.
/rant

*Sigh* Maybe it's time for some effective detective movies to return.

Mithmee08 Mar 2019 1:48 p.m. PST

Spoiler…

Well this will end with Thanos just bringing back everyone after he becomes a farmer.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Mar 2019 5:54 a.m. PST

I could never understand Thanos. If he was concerned about overpopulation, instead of killing half the people in the universe why didn't he just make them sterile?

15mm and 28mm Fanatik09 Mar 2019 8:51 p.m. PST

Probably going to pass on this one.

Good for you. If angry white men can rage-quit Star Wars, they can surely do the same with Marvel.

Thor in this film was changed into a complete dolt. He's had some slow moments before, but in this one, he was practically lobotomized. No wonder Loki always tricked him in the past.

The God of Thunder has always been more brawn than brains. Think of him as the big dumb jock star QB in high school while his skinny half-brother is the nerdy bookworm.

If he was concerned about overpopulation, instead of killing half the people in the universe why didn't he just make them sterile?

A very logical observation, but then there would be no Infinity War either in the comics or on the big screen. So why ask why?

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP10 Mar 2019 12:08 p.m. PST

"angry white men"

Wow. Replace two words with their two opposites, and re-read the phrase, then tell me how it should be classified. I also didn't see anyone objecting to the movie on any grounds as are implied.

When I was reading Marvel comics as a teen and college student, "Captain Marvel" (the Marvel-verse version) was a black female police officer who had acquired energy-based superpowers. She was featured as one of the four lead characters in "Day of the Octopus," the introductory adventure for the TSR Marvel Super-heroes Role Playing Game. To revive the original Marvel-verse "Captain Mar-Vell," the comic book writers brought in his son and took the name away, giving her several super-hero names over time. Sucks to be her, I guess. (I understand she appears in the film, but not as a police officer.)

Also, the character in the movie was the original "Ms. Marvel," which title Marvel also took away and changed to "Captain Marvel," after a number of power changes and some serious retconning. Now I believe Ms. Marvel has been reintroduced as an Pakistani-American Muslim teenager? (So if you're confused, join the club.)

By the way, I have no objection to the film on any of these points. I just note the irony.

Of course, if you ask me, the *real* Captain Marvel wears a big red suit with a white and gold cape, is solidly male, and appears whenever cub reporter Billy Batson says "Shazam!" I've known that since I was an 8-year-old, sitting on the floor in the local convenience store, reading through the comic book rack. And you can't tell me any different. Nor my dad. grin

(Yes, I know that's not the Marvel Captain Marvel, but a much earlier character of Whiz Comics/Fawcett Comics, later acquired by DC in a lawsuit (unjustly, IMHO).)

15mm and 28mm Fanatik10 Mar 2019 1:02 p.m. PST

the *real* Captain Marvel wears a big red suit with a white and gold cape, is solidly male, and appears whenever cub reporter Billy Batson says "Shazam!"


And that "Captain Marvel" will have his own movie due out in a couple of weeks, which should be good.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik10 Mar 2019 5:31 p.m. PST

Looks like people went to see CM in droves. The movie grossed $153 USD million domestically and $302 USD million internationally ($89 mil in China) for a $455 USD million global 3-day Friday to Sunday cume: link

No angry white men sat it out, my bad.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP10 Mar 2019 6:51 p.m. PST

Truth is, I doubt any but the most devoted Marvel fans know who or what "Captain Marvel" was in any iteration. Spider-man, the FF, Captain America, the Hulk, and to a lesser extent Iron-Man and Thor were certainly far more widely recognized, as were even the X-Men. So when they announced a movie about a barely registering character (as least as far as the average person is concerned) I was surprised. Heck, I read comics back in the day, and I don't think I ever encountered this character, though I wasn't an Avengers reader. Big gamble, imho, which was only possible because of the weight of the Avengers franchise. I hope they do well, but I admit I'm feeling some burnout on the whole super movie thing…

15mm and 28mm Fanatik11 Mar 2019 7:29 a.m. PST

Most of the moviegoers who went to see Capt Marvel and Black Panther are probably not diehard comic book readers or even fans before the current spate of movies in the MCU.

I was an avid comic book reader in the '80's and early '90's, when comic book popularity peaked to the extent that some of the best talents started their own company, Image Comics. CM wasn't one of them, though I was big into 'She Hulk.' I "grew up" and stopped reading comics in the mid-90's and never looked back. That is, until the Marvel movie rennaissance rejuvenated my interest with Iron Man and X-Men.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see if the Mouse House can keep up the momentum after End-game when Iron Man and Cap (and maybe Thor, Black Widow and Hawkeye) are out of the picture.

As for CM, I saw it yesterday and thought it was "okay but not great." Maybe it was genre fatigue, but part of it is that CM is so powerful (like Superman) that there's little uncertainty and the outcome is never in doubt. It got a bit "boring" after awhile. Still worth a watch though.

Bowman11 Mar 2019 8:30 a.m. PST

I "grew up" and stopped reading comics in the mid-90's and never looked back.

That's my story too, except it was the 70's for me. But after being bored to tears with the current "super hero" movie onslaught, I'll watch this on TV when it gets there.

Angry white man? I'll cop to the last two words and substitute "discriminating" for "angry" thanks.

Mithmee11 Mar 2019 12:33 p.m. PST

I "grew up" and stopped reading comics in the mid-90's and never looked back.

I as well basically stop reading and buying Comic Books back in that time as well.

But it is not due to getting older but that they were beginning to change the "Canon" so due to them changing the storylines and pushing SJW…

I voted with my wallet and stop buying.

Though I still have all of the comic books that I have been buying over the prior 18 years, which are quite a few.

Oh I do not plan to see that other Captain Marvel movie either since it looks completely stupid.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2019 3:57 p.m. PST

Stopped reading in the early ‘90s as well. Part of what turned me off were the increasingly violent and gory storylines and villains, not to mention over-the-top (and badly scripted) sensational stuff. At some point, I walked away, only briefly returning for the early run of the Batman Adventures based on the ‘90s Batman: The Animated Series— which, by the way, were both excellent.

Old Wolfman12 Mar 2019 6:41 a.m. PST

I still read Mad Magazine.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik12 Mar 2019 8:05 a.m. PST

do not plan to see that other Captain Marvel movie either since it looks completely stupid.

Speaking of stupid, did you see 'Deadpool' and 'Deadpool 2'? Terrible!

I'm not sure if making 'Shazam!' into a comedy is a good idea, but I'm curious to find out.

I can afford to be less discriminating in my movie choices because I have an AMC subscription which allows me to watch up to 156 movies a year (3 per week), in theory only because I won't even reach half that in any given year.

Mithmee12 Mar 2019 12:45 p.m. PST

I did watch Deadpool and yes it was tad stupid but it was a Deadpool movie.

Have not seen the second one yet and unsure if I ever will.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP12 Mar 2019 12:54 p.m. PST

Passed on Deadpool; prefer my comic book movies not to have stuff that requires an R rating, and though I'm sure it suits the character, I never read his books.

On the other hand, I don't mind the humor approach at all, so Shazam! might be on my list. (See new thread, above this one.)

15mm and 28mm Fanatik12 Mar 2019 8:18 p.m. PST

Here are my CM comments: link

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP17 Mar 2019 5:16 p.m. PST

Anyway – back to the OP: I really enjoyed Captain Marvel, had a good few surprises and in-jokes for those of us who have followed the Marvel marathon (have to admit I did skip a few of the earlier movies).


if you enjoyed Guardians of the Galaxy you'll likely enjoy this as this is really Marvels SF strand rather than superheroes as such.

I do wonder though why folks who can build really big spaceships, have amazing weaponry and stealth technology spend so much time PUNCHING each other. It just seems stupid after a while.

Mithmee18 Mar 2019 6:55 p.m. PST

Those ships cost money…

Lot of Money

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Mar 2019 5:31 p.m. PST

Saw it today and enjoyed it. I haven't seen all the other Marvel Universe movies and I've forgotten a lot of the details of the ones I have, so there were several interesting plot twists that took me by surprise.

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