| Old Contemptibles | 11 Dec 2018 11:28 a.m. PST |
When will these Scientist and experts admit there is no such thing as global warming? It's the middle of December and it's freezing outside. Where is the warming? link |
| FoxtrotPapaRomeo | 11 Dec 2018 12:02 p.m. PST |
Of course, anecdotes trump evidence … thank God the earth is flat. |
| jdginaz | 11 Dec 2018 12:05 p.m. PST |
No Reality trumps manufactured evidence. |
| Winston Smith | 11 Dec 2018 1:00 p.m. PST |
Manatees should be safer in Greenland and Alaska. |
| Bowman | 11 Dec 2018 3:26 p.m. PST |
No Reality trumps manufactured evidence. I'll invoke Hitchen's Razor…….once again. Hard to tell if this is a Poe or not. |
| Mithmee | 11 Dec 2018 7:38 p.m. PST |
Will I would have to say yes it is a hoax. Since looking at the temperatures for both the North and South Poles it still very cold in both places. link link Get back to me when both of them hit 50 degrees. |
ScottWashburn  | 12 Dec 2018 5:19 a.m. PST |
But it's going to be 95 in Perth on Friday! Global warming migrates! |
| Bowman | 12 Dec 2018 7:03 a.m. PST |
Will I would have to say yes it is a hoax. Of course you would. I'd expect that from you. Since looking at the temperatures for both the North and South Poles it still very cold in both places. Uh-Uh that's not really a surprise, is it? So tell me. When scientists take the temperatures at the poles, so you can reproduce these readings here, that's legit science, right? But when they do composite temperature readings all over the world, and find that the aggregate temperature is .8 degrees warmer in 2018 than the 20th century average, then that is a hoax? And when the aggregate temperature values show that the May temperatures for 2014-2018 are the hottest years on record, that's also a hoax, right? Do I have that right? From your own government agency: link |
| Mithmee | 12 Dec 2018 7:19 a.m. PST |
But when they do composite temperature readings all over the world, and find that the aggregate temperature is .8 degrees warmer in 2018 than the 20th century average, then that is a hoax? And when the aggregate temperature values show that the May temperatures for 2014-2018 are the hottest years on record, that's also a hoax, right? Right they are. Composite Temperature readings are just estimates of what they feel the temperature is and when they use computer programs that are designed to show that Global Warming is happening anything they estimate needs to be taken with a very large grain of salt. They pick and choose which temperatures to use for their studies. As for being the hottest years on record I doubt that as well. |
| Bowman | 12 Dec 2018 7:30 a.m. PST |
Get back to me when both of them hit 50 degrees. Lol. So scientists have determined that the Moon is slowly flying away from us. It's at a rate of just under 4cm per year. I'll get back to you when the Moon is only half the visible size it is now. Until then it's just another hoax, I guess. |
| Bowman | 12 Dec 2018 7:33 a.m. PST |
They pick and choose which temperatures to use for their studies. Anything to back that up? Remember, anything asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Right they are. That's what I'm saying. The scientists are correct. Composite Temperature readings are just estimates No actually they are NOT estimates. They are mathematical constructs and are either means, modes and medians. Also there are good error calculations involved. Here is a primer: link |
| Mithmee | 12 Dec 2018 3:36 p.m. PST |
mathematical constructs So not real temperatures then? are either means, modes and medians So they are estimates and averages. Sorry to say I understand statistics or how to lie with numbers. |
| Bowman | 12 Dec 2018 5:29 p.m. PST |
So not real temperatures then? Really? Sorry to say I understand statistics….. Not according what you have written above. "Average" is a conversational term that doesn't have a real mathematical meaning. The three types of average are mean, mode and median. They are all different and no….they are not "estimates". This can help your "understanding": link Are you coming up with any evidence for your proclamations? |
| Mithmee | 12 Dec 2018 11:32 p.m. PST |
Are you coming up with any evidence for your proclamations? Take your pick: link link link link link link Oh and there are many more. If you pick and choose which numbers to use you can show that what you say is happening is even when it not. They are pulling off one of the greatest cons ever. |
| Bowman | 13 Dec 2018 5:58 a.m. PST |
Oh Boy, newspaper articles and right wing psuedo-science blogs. As usual you don't actually read your links as the fourth on down disputes your claim. To whit: "Many climate sceptics like to argue that scientists "exaggerate" warming by lowering past temperatures and raising present ones. Christopher Booker, a climate sceptic writing in the Sunday Telegraph in 2015, called them "the greatest scientific scandal in history". A new report from the rightwing US thinktank, the Cato Institute, even claims that adjustments account for "nearly all the warming" in the historical record. But analysis by Carbon Brief comparing raw global temperature records to the adjusted data finds that the truth is much more mundane: adjustments have relatively little impact on global temperatures, particularly over the past 50 years." This is a science board. When I ask for evidence I mean scientific evidence. What about all the published meta analyses of the climate literature? Can you dig up even one that shows the data is skewed? Your last example is especially laughable. That know-nothing Lamar Smith doing a press release in 2017 trying to prop up his nonsense "witch hunt" from 2015. This has been excoriated by the media many times, and has been given the same treatment here on TMP. Pay attention. Quit reading discredited nonsense like CFact, Climate Depot and WUWT. Read some real science, like Sci-Am, Nature, Popular Science, Discover, PLOS, New Scientist, etc, etc, Read something by real scientists doing real research, and not just retired guys living off of Heartland Institute grants. |
| Mithmee | 13 Dec 2018 8:03 a.m. PST |
This has been excoriated by the media many times, Well when you are either part of the hoax/con or support it you will do anything to keep it going. They are using changing the data or using only values that support their beliefs. Any Global Warming report is going to be flawed. They stop using Global Warming and started using Climate Change because it wasn't happening and none of the Doom & Gloom happened. Plus they are claiming that any forest fire is due to… Climate Change Or, any Hurricane that hits the United States is due to… Climate Change They like you are so driven that everything and anything that happens is due to… Climate Change Well that is just not the case. |
| Bowman | 13 Dec 2018 11:27 a.m. PST |
Well when you are either part of the hoax/con or support it you will do anything to keep it going. So add all the press to all the government agencies, all the scientists (except those paid by the Heartland Institute), all the scientific agencies, all the universities, all the science departments, all the scientific publication editorial staff, people who use "proxy science" and everyone who ever had to calculate "averages" to your list of hoaxers. Got it. They are using changing the data or using only values that support their beliefs. Which you haven't shown. Testimonials on scientifically illiterate blogs don't count. Any Global Warming report is going to be flawed. That I will have to agree with you on. Any scientific enterprises will be be flawed to some extent. And corrections are always ongoing. That's how science works. But that is a far cry from a global conspiracy of an almost world wide hoax. They stop using Global Warming and started using Climate Change because it wasn't happening and none of the Doom & Gloom happened. This seems to be important to you. To me it's a big non-sequitur. Plus they are claiming that any forest fire is due to…Climate Change Or, any Hurricane that hits the United States is due to… Climate Change Any Hurricane and wildfire? No one is saying anything like that. Nice Straw Man. They like you are so driven that everything and anything that happens is due to… They, ……like me? You must have me mistaken for someone else. Well that is just not the case. Told to you by whom? Climate Depot? Whats up With That? CFact? Senator Inofe? LOL! |
