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Mardaddy08 Oct 2017 9:35 a.m. PST

Enjoyed it. The particular theater had the sound up WAAAAY to high, and I supposed I could have said something, but it was not ruinous.

Movie had me thinking more, tendrils of possibilities and ramifications, which is good.

Not as pure scifi gold as the original, but a worthy sequel.

jdpintex08 Oct 2017 9:44 a.m. PST

Really?

I was so looking forward to it and was massively disappointed. It was easily an hour too long. I almost forgot what the Ryan gosling character was even looking for. Nothing like the original

I enjoyed the remake of Flatliners more

Mardaddy08 Oct 2017 10:50 a.m. PST

Yes, nothing like the original, were you looking for a remake?

jdpintex08 Oct 2017 3:42 p.m. PST

I was looking for something somewhat interesting or entertaining. I almost fell asleep during the first hour. Endless travel over the city whereas the original showed the gritty streets.

Three hours of my life wasted. The director makes interesting movies but desperately needs to learn to edit

PzGeneral08 Oct 2017 4:07 p.m. PST

Just saw the original for the first time yesterday.

Meh……

I'd tell you why I feel that way, but I don't want to be the Amy to your collective Sheldon. wink

My friend who loves the original (even though he claims ignorance to many of the things I pointed out) loved it.

Dave

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2017 7:29 p.m. PST

LOVED the new version..Saw it in IMAX ----total immersion

Patrick R09 Oct 2017 2:46 a.m. PST

The original was built on ego, cocaine and booze abuse, benefited from an amazing production design and relied on a ton of "flou artistique" to imply just enough so you could fill out the rest to your own satisfaction.

I like Blade Runner as an experience, it is in some ways greater than the sum of its parts and also very deeply flawed.

And even the flaws make Blade Runner interesting. One of my favorites is Priss and Zohra. If you compare their background with what happens in the film, I'd say their characters got mixed up and Priss is the combat model and Zohra is the pleasure model. And it feels quite in the spirit of the world that somewhere, somebody made a clerical error and mixed up the two.

Oddly enough, despite the flaws, Blade Runner works.

Mr Elmo09 Oct 2017 8:31 a.m. PST

I believe Pris is the basic pleasure model.

Anyway, if you want to save 3 hours, read Gen 30:22-24 and you'll get the basic plot.

chuck05 Fezian10 Oct 2017 2:28 p.m. PST

I saw the new one yesterday. I did not care for it. It was too long. The acting for the most part was fairly weak. I didnt care for the story either.

kallman11 Oct 2017 9:02 a.m. PST

What movie did you guys see? Clearly you did not see the same film I did. Blade Runner 2049 in a word was sublime. I look forward to seeing it again. It was a stand alone film while also being an excellent sequel to the equally sublime original Blade Runner, especially the final director's cut when Ridley Scott could restore the essence of the story he originally wanted to tell without the studio mucking things up. Which is the question of what does it mean to be human? This theme is carried forward and is perhaps more profound with Blade Runner 2049. And yes Mr Elmo, there are many allegories in Blade Runner 2049 to Genesis and not just the portion you have referenced.

This film will be keeping grad students pondering and writing dissertations for decades. In an era of block busters and superhero films with little of no substance we finally have ART. It is also embraces the best elements of science fiction which is to turn the glass of ourselves and society back at us to reflect on our times and where we have been and where we are going. The character Niander Wallace's statement, Every weave of civilization was built off the back of slaves. Replicants are the future. But I can only make so many." Was a profound statement of our society today.

Cyrus the Great11 Oct 2017 9:22 a.m. PST

It would've benefited from judicious editing.

chuck05 Fezian12 Oct 2017 8:06 a.m. PST

The only character I found remotely interesting was the hologram girl. The others were just flat.

Bowman14 Oct 2017 2:15 p.m. PST

+10 Kim.

The essence of the Philip K Dick story was always what it means to be a human. I thought the Villaneuve movie dealt with that in a new way, yet still keeping with the Scott version.

I think the humans in both movies were emotionally stunted and the replicants showed more passion and humanity. This was done on purpose and seems to be lost on some here. Puts the cryptic conversation between the Blade Runner and the Replicant at the film's start into perspective.

I also loved his last movie, "Arrival". Nice to see epic, thought provoking Sci-Fi that isn't sourced from comic books or franchised sequels.

Jakar Nilson15 Oct 2017 8:42 a.m. PST

And I'm left wondering about any deeper meaning in the choice of Peter and the Wolf used in Wallace products. A biting critique on the child-like nature of its customers?

Huscarle15 Oct 2017 9:19 a.m. PST

Different to what I was expecting, but very welcome all the same. It's always good to see a film that makes you think; I enjoyed it and I will be going to see it again, as I'm sure some things passed me by.
I didn't even notice the film's length as I was so immersed in the story. The ending was rather abrupt leaving it open for a sequel.
Already got the DVD on order thumbs up

Madan Mitra15 Oct 2017 10:28 a.m. PST

I thought it was ok but 43 minutes too long, though the music did nothing for me and was loud in places that it need not be…so sick of that BRAAAH noise.

My cinema had a grand total of 10 people in it and my friend fell asleep, in my brothers cinema 2 different people were heard snoring before being nudged and 2 couples walked out 2 hours into the movie…

Just simply too over indulgent, any other movie would have been edited down and scenes like Gaff's would have been an extra on the dvd. I liked the performances especially the hologram girl. Will watch again from a streaming site but not after that and I own most versions of the original.

Laters
Madan

Stealth100015 Oct 2017 2:41 p.m. PST

I saw it and thought it was in the top 2 films of 2017. Loved it. It made me go out and buy the original. I had forgotten how good that film was. I think the new Blade Runner is in the style of the final cut Blade runner film. Probably the best film of 2017. Go see it. For me its what Ghost in the shell should have been.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2017 7:55 p.m. PST

***SPOILERS***

I was disappointed. It was just so boring. It seriously needed an editor with the intestinal fortitude to hold the director accountable for so much wasted time and aggressively cut out a lot of the interminable pauses and long lingering shots.

The story line was okay, and the film was not horrible in a "Phantom Menace" sense. But it was soooo slow and was flabby -- it should have been an hour shorter. The director and editor lacked any sense of self-discipline. If you have read the Honor Harrington series, the first Blade Runner was more like "On Basilisk Station", while BR2049 was more like "At All Costs", which is almost legendary for its slow plot and excessive verbosity.

As we were watching it, I was thinking that the director had watched the original film and thought to himself, "This film has a few lingering face shots, a lot of heavy architecture, and some jarring sound effects. We need to kick that up by a couple orders of magnitude. Let's have an hour's worth of lingering shots that make 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' look like 'Fast and Furious', a bunch of nude statues in a dust storm, and that dubstep track that my cousin recorded during his last meth binge playing over and over."

Why did he spend a 10-minute segment on Joe having sex with a prostitute overlaid with a hologram? That scene could have taken 90 seconds to 2 minutes, tops, and still been just as impactful.

How much time was wasted watching Joe look at the tree? Or looking at the furnace where the wooden horse was hidden? Or with Princess Buttercup sitting in his apartment drinking, asking questions that added nothing to the story line?

Overall, it was ponderous, bloated, and boring. I love the original so much that I own multiple versions of it on Blu-Ray, whereas I will probably never watch the sequel again. It's not worth my time.

As my adieu, I give you the next-to-final scene as written by Dr. Seuss:

Look Joe, snow.
Snow, Joe, snow.
The snow is slow.
Joe is slow.
The snow is on Joe.
Woe is Joe.
Joe sits in the snow.
Joe is on the snow.
He lays in the snow.
Slow, slow, slow.
The snow comes on.
Joe is gone.
All those moments will be lost in time,
Like tears in rain.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik22 Nov 2017 5:26 p.m. PST

It's an "art" film. Director Denis Villeneuve is an auteur who also made that really slooooow and booooring (but good) alien movie starring Amy Adams and Jeremy Renner awhile back that everyone raved about.

His best movie IMO is still 'Sicario.'

catavar19 Feb 2018 8:59 p.m. PST

Good sequel in my opinion. Did LAPD of the future have security cameras?

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